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Update, 11/8: JetBlue flights are once again bookable online with Qatar Avios, but with significantly higher rates. Luckily, there are still no fuel surcharges on these awards, but mileage rates are much higher than they were, and are downright absurd in some cases.
Congrats to everyone who acted quickly and caused Qatar to lose money at the original rates…some of them were certainly too good to last. Clearly, somebody goofed here.
You can still book AA award bargains at the old rates, though some fuel surcharges apply to those on international flights.
Here is the new JetBlue award chart that I pieced together:
Flight distance | Economy | Business | Sample routes |
---|---|---|---|
0-1,100 | 8.5K | 17K | JFK-Boston, Chicago, or Fort Lauderdale |
1,101-2,000 | 13K | 26K | JFK-Aruba, S. Maarten, or S. Thomas |
2,081-2,800 | 18,500 | 74K | JFK-Barbados, Liberia, Las Vegas, Los Angeles, or Seattle |
2,801-3,700 | 25K | 78K | JFK-Amsterdam, Dublin, London, or Paris |
And here are examples of how pricing has changed over the past 2 days on selected routes:
Economy (Previous) | Economy (Current) | Business (Previous) | Business (Current) | |
---|---|---|---|---|
JFK-Boston | 6K | 8.5K | - | - |
JFK-Detroit | 6K | 8.5K | - | - |
JFK-Chicago | 9K | 8.5K | - | - |
JFK-Miami | 9K | 8.5K | - | - |
JFK-Aruba | 11K | 13K | 22K | 26K |
JFK-S. Maarten | 11K | 13K | 22K | 26K |
JFK-S. Thomas | 11K | 13K | 22K | 26K |
JFK-Barbados | 13K | 18,500 | 38,750 | 74K |
JFK-Los Cabos | 13K | 18,500 | 38,750 | 74K |
JFK-Liberia | 13K | 18,500 | 38,750 | 74K |
JFK-Las Vegas | 13K | 18,500 | 38,750 | 74K |
JFK-Palm Springs | 13K | 18,500 | 38,750 | 74K |
JFK-Reno | 13K | 18,500 | 38,750 | 74K |
JFK-Salt Lake City | 13K | 18,500 | 38,750 | 74K |
JFK-San Diego | 13K | 18,500 | 38,750 | 74K |
JFK-Seattle | 13K | 18,500 | 38,750 | 74K |
JFK-Los Angeles | 13K | 18,500 | 38,750 | 74K |
JFK-San Francisco | 13K | 18,500 | 38,750 | 74K |
JFK-Guayaquil | 13K | 25K | 38,750 | 78K |
Boston-Dublin | 13K | 25K | 38,750 | 78K |
JFK-London | 20,750 | 25K | 62K | 78K |
JFK-Edinburgh | 20,750 | 25K | 62K | 78K |
JFK-Amsterdam | 20,750 | 25K | 62K | 78K |
JFK-Paris | 20,750 | 25K | 62K | 78K |
JFK to San Francisco business class pricing, AA versus new JetBlue pricing:
New JetBlue transatlantic pricing:
Update, 11/7: Due to “technical issues,” JetBlue flights are temporarily unavailable with Qatar Avios online or by phone.
Originally posted on 11/6:
Table of Contents
Elephant in the Room:
Let’s start with the elephant in the room.
I’ve been avoiding actively writing about Qatar Airways since the brutal Hamas attacks against Israelis while they were celebrating the holiday of Simchas Torah last month. I certainly wouldn’t fly on Qatar at this point in time. I would usually cover Avios transfer bonuses in depth, but merely included the current Qatar Avios bonus in the roundup here. But these are difficult decisions to make with no good answers.
That’s because Qatar has hosted the political offices and leaders of Hamas since 2012.
Qatar Airways is fully owned by the country of Qatar.
Qatar was able to negotiate the release of 4 hostages who were brutally kidnapped a month ago from Israel into Gaza, but has thus far been unsuccessful in securing the release of more hostages.
Qatar says there is no reason to force the office of Hamas to close, for as long as it can be used towards peace. I assume from that statement that the offices will be forced to close when the war is over, but that remains to be seen. For now, the US hasn’t pressured Qatar to close the Hamas offices, presumably with the same calculation, though that position seems untenable for much longer.
Is using Qatar’s mileage program to save a bundle on JetBlue or AA flights the right thing to do at this point in time? It doesn’t seem the same as flying on Qatar now, but it’s certainly a tough ethical dilemma.
However, it’s a question that’s above my pay grade and the developments below are too big to ignore. Therefore, I’m reporting the news of what can now be done with Qatar Avios, and I’d suggest asking your Rabbi or other trusted source of guidance on what you should do in this situation.
JetBlue points:
JetBlue’s revenue-based TrueBlue loyalty program means there are never outsized values to be had for their flights.
The program has been improving its elite status side of the program, but there’s not much to get excited about on the redemption side:
Avios Rates for JetBlue flights:
There used to be good values when redeeming AA and Emirates miles for JetBlue flights, but those are now long gone.
Luckily, you can now redeem Qatar Avios for JetBlue flights! Award availability is also excellent!
Even more incredibly, while Qatar charges fuel surcharges for all other transatlantic flights, they don’t charge any fuel surcharges on JetBlue flights! Hopefully it stays that way, though that is always subject to change.
Qatar has a very good partner award chart:
You can use GCMap to calculate the distance on any route. Here are some sample redemption prices:
Economy (Previous) | Economy (Current) | Business (Previous) | Business (Current) | |
---|---|---|---|---|
JFK-Boston | 6K | 8.5K | - | - |
JFK-Detroit | 6K | 8.5K | - | - |
JFK-Chicago | 9K | 8.5K | - | - |
JFK-Miami | 9K | 8.5K | - | - |
JFK-Aruba | 11K | 13K | 22K | 26K |
JFK-S. Maarten | 11K | 13K | 22K | 26K |
JFK-S. Thomas | 11K | 13K | 22K | 26K |
JFK-Barbados | 13K | 18,500 | 38,750 | 74K |
JFK-Los Cabos | 13K | 18,500 | 38,750 | 74K |
JFK-Liberia | 13K | 18,500 | 38,750 | 74K |
JFK-Las Vegas | 13K | 18,500 | 38,750 | 74K |
JFK-Palm Springs | 13K | 18,500 | 38,750 | 74K |
JFK-Reno | 13K | 18,500 | 38,750 | 74K |
JFK-Salt Lake City | 13K | 18,500 | 38,750 | 74K |
JFK-San Diego | 13K | 18,500 | 38,750 | 74K |
JFK-Seattle | 13K | 18,500 | 38,750 | 74K |
JFK-Los Angeles | 13K | 18,500 | 38,750 | 74K |
JFK-San Francisco | 13K | 18,500 | 38,750 | 74K |
JFK-Guayaquil | 13K | 25K | 38,750 | 78K |
Boston-Dublin | 13K | 25K | 38,750 | 78K |
JFK-London | 20,750 | 25K | 62K | 78K |
JFK-Edinburgh | 20,750 | 25K | 62K | 78K |
JFK-Amsterdam | 20,750 | 25K | 62K | 78K |
JFK-Paris | 20,750 | 25K | 62K | 78K |
Booking JetBlue flights with Avios:
Just login to Qatar Avios here and click award flights to search for JetBlue award flights. If your city won’t populate in the award flights tab, see here for what to do.
Boston to Dublin sneaks in just under 3K miles in distance, so it costs just 13K Avios in coach or 38,750 Avios in MINT business class:
Transcontinental flights, such as NYC-LA, will also cost 13K Avios in coach or 38,750 Avios in MINT business class:
JFK to Paris or London will be 20,750 Avios in coach or 62K Avios in MINT business class:
Booking AA flights with Avios:
It’s also noteworthy that with AA raising mileage rates for their own flights, it’s worth checking Qatar Avios for AA flights.
AA charges 93.5K miles+$5.60 to fly from JFK to Paris in business class:
BA charges 62K miles+$981.20 to fly AA from JFK to Paris in business class:
Qatar charges 62K miles+$194.70 to fly AA from JFK to Paris in business class:
Cities that aren’t searchable online:
Note that if your city pair isn’t found via the award search, you’ll have to click on flights with other partners and select JetBlue from the drop-down menu.
You’ll need to have sufficient mileage in your account to use this method and an agent will get back to you within a day or 2 to confirm availability and your booking:
If you don’t have sufficient Avios in your account, this will pop-up:
When you have enough points in your Qatar Avios account, you’ll see this form to fill out:
You can also call Qatar at 800-988-6128 to book award tickets.
Combining Avios:
You can link and combine Qatar Avios and British Airways Avios via BA.com.
You can also combine Avios via the Qatar site here.
Cancellation fee:
Qatar charges $25 for changes or cancellations made more than 24 hours prior to departure. Cancellations made between 3-24 hours before departure are subject to a $100 fee. Changes are not allowed within 3 hours of a flight.
Citi transfer bonus:
You can get a 30% transfer bonus from Citi To Qatar Avios through 11/10. Note that the bonus Avios are not instant and will post by year-end.
That means you can book a transcontinental or transatlantic business class from just 29.8K points!
Mileage transfer options:
- You can transfer AMEX, Chase, Capital One, Or Citi points to Qatar Avios at a 1:1 ratio or Marriott points at a 60K:25K ratio.
AMEX cards with transferable Membership Rewards points include:
- AMEX Blue Business Plus
- AMEX Platinum Business
- AMEX Gold Business Card
- The Platinum Card® from American Express
- American Express® Gold Card
- AMEX Green Consumer Card
- AMEX Everyday Preferred Consumer Card
- AMEX Everyday Consumer Card
If you, a member in your household, or an authorized user has one of the following Chase cards, you can transfer points into miles:
- Chase Chase Sapphire Preferred® Card® Card has a 60K signup bonus ending soon, earns 2.1 points per dollar on travel, 3.1 points per dollar on dining, streaming, and online groceries, has a $50 hotel credit, can transfer all Chase points into miles, and points are worth at least 1.3 cents each for paid travel or pay yourself back categories ($95 annual fee). Read more here.
- Chase Sapphire Reserve® has a 60K signup bonus, earns 3 points per dollar on dining/travel, has a $300 travel credit, can transfer all Chase points into miles, and points are worth at least 1.5 cents each for paid travel or pay yourself back categories ($550 annual fee with $300 travel credit). Read more here.
- Ink Business Preferred® Credit Card earns 3 points per dollar on shipping, advertising, and travel, can transfer all Chase points into miles, and points are worth at least 1.25 cents each for paid travel or pay yourself back categories ($95 annual fee). Read more here.
Chase no-annual fee cards that are fantastic for earning points, but require one of the cards above for points transfers include:
- Ink Business Cash® Credit Card earns 5 points per dollar on cable, TV, telecom, cellular, office supply stores, and gift cards from office supply stores, plus 2 points per dollar on dining and gas ($0 annual fee). Read more here.
- Ink Business Unlimited® Credit Card earns 1.5 points per dollar everywhere ($0 annual fee). Read more here.
- Chase Freedom Flex has a 20K signup bonus, plus 5 points on rotating categories, 5 points per dollar on travel purchased through the Chase Ultimate Rewards portal, and 3 points per dollar on dining and drugstores ($0 annual fee). Read more here.
- Chase Freedom Unlimited® has a signup bonus offering 3 points per dollar on up to $20K of spending in your first 12 month, afterwards earn at least 1.5 points per dollar everywhere, 5 points per dollar on travel purchased through the Chase Ultimate Rewards portal, and 3 points per dollar on dining and drugstores ($0 annual fee). Read more here.
If you or a friend has one of the following Citi cards, you can transfer points into miles:
- Citi Premier® Card has a 60,000 point bonus for spending $4,000 in 3 months, 3 points per dollar on airfare, hotels, travel agents, groceries, gas, and dining. $95 annual fee. Read more here.
Citi no-annual fee cards that are fantastic for earning points, but require one of the cards above for points transfers include:
- The Citi Double Cash® Card offers 2% cash back or 2 points per dollar spent everywhere that can be transferred into ThankYou points. If you also have a Citi Premier® Card Card you can transfer points into miles. No annual fee. Read more here.
- The Citi Custom Cash® Card offers 5 points per dollar on up to $500 in purchases in your top eligible spending category each billing cycle. This is marketed as 5% cash back, but will actually come in the form of 5 ThankYou points per dollar spent! Eligible categories include Restaurants, Gas Stations, Grocery Stores, Select Travel, Select Transit, Select Streaming Services, Drugstores, Home Improvement Stores, Fitness Clubs, and Live Entertainment. You will also get 0% APR on purchases and balance transfers for 15 months. No annual fee. Read more here.
- The Citi Rewards+® Card offering 20,000 points for spending $1,500 in 3 months. This card can’t transfer points on its own, but can transfer points if you have one of the Citi cards above. This card automatically rounds up rewards earned on every purchase to the nearest 10 points, meaning you earn 10 points on a $0.50 Amazon balance reload. Earn 2 points on $6K in annual spending at supermarkets, and a 10% points rebate when you redeem points, up to a 10K points rebate per year. If you also have a Citi Premier® Card Card you can transfer points into miles and get a 10% points rebate on transferred or redeemed miles. No annual fee. Read more here.
Capital One cards with transferable points include:
- Capital One Venture Rewards Credit Card X Rewards Credit Card: Earn 75,000 bonus miles for spending $4,000 in 3 months, plus earn 2 miles per dollar spent, $300 annual travel credit, 10K anniversary bonus miles, Global Entry/Pre-Check, Capital One lounge access, Priority Pass Lounge membership, and more. Read more here.
- Capital One Venture Rewards Credit Card X Business Card: Earn 150,000 bonus miles for spending $30,000 in 3 months, plus earn 2 miles per dollar spent, $300 annual travel credit, 10K anniversary bonus miles, Global Entry/Pre-Check, Capital One lounge access, enhanced Priority Pass Lounge membership, and more. Read more here.
- Capital One Venture Rewards Credit Card: Earn 75,000 bonus miles for spending $4,000 in 3 months, plus 2 miles per dollar spent. Read more here.
- Capital One Venture Rewards Credit CardOne: Earn 20,000 bonus miles for spending $500 in 3 months, plus 2 miles per dollar spent and no annual fee.
- Capital One Spark Miles for Business: Earn 50,000 bonus miles, plus 2 miles per dollar spent.
- Capital One Spark Cash Plus: Earn up to 100,000 bonus miles, plus 2 miles per dollar spent, convertible into transferrable miles with any of the 3 cards above. Read more here.
Marriott cards with transferable points include:
- Chase Marriott Bonvoy Boundless Consumer Card
- Marriott Bonvoy Business® American Express® Card
- Marriott Bonvoy Brilliant™ American Express®Card
- Marriott Bonvoy Bold Card
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How do you get qatar avios points
Transfer from most credit cards or other Avios programs.
Thank you for the huge caveat upfront and center.
Jewish Lives Count!
100%
Wouldn’t give them any business at this time.
Pass
Certainly a fair position to take.
All Arab country’s support etc
Source?
What’s the ability like Qatar points flying on jetblue? How do you know if it’s available?
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/airlines/aa/book-jetblue-flights-qatar-avios-including-transatlantic-business-class-just-29-8k-points-plus-save-big-aa-awards/#Booking_JetBlue_flights_with_Avios
From Wikipedia:
“Qatar is a key financial backer and ally of the Palestinian militant organization Hamas. Qatar has transferred more than $1.8 billion to Hamas.”
Hence the opening disclaimer.
True.
You mentioned Qatar’s hosting of Hamas’ leaders.
I thought we should be aware that their involvement is much more substantial than merely ‘hosting’.
To be fair, Israel actively encouraged that financial support as they hoped the economic opportunity would change Hamas and Gaza.
It was a deadly miscalculation.
Good point
Shameful for you to even post this. Are we a nation of suck suckeres to even consider continuing to do unnecessary business with these terror sponsors? I’m embarrassed for you for even posting this.
see comment above its Qatar is not necessarily benefiting.
Airline loyalty programs are made to encourage flying that airline so short of doing so using them to bank points for partner redemption is not ‘giving the business’ much.
If this Jet Blue charges Qatar for the redemption is this really rewarding Qatar?
I don’t know the internal reimbursement rates.
Would you be able to do a bit of digging for us to find out? I think that would make a difference for folks
It’s not public information.
Ok thanks
YES! Keep your life simple and use your brain. Qatar sells points. Makes money. Supports terrorist organization.
Isreal just accused Qatar of sponsoring a terrorist tunnel under their hospital. Mabye I’m wrong but I assume Qatar was fully aware of this as well.
Does Qatar make money when redeeming with partner airlines. Sounds stupid just have no idea how airlines make money with partners on points.
They make money selling Avios to banks. They spend money to buy JetBlue tickets.
I don’t know the internal reimbursement rates for who pays what when they book business class tickets that would otherwise cost $3,000 for $300 worth of points.
Along the same lines. The St Regis Bal Harbour is owned by a Qatari company. While it may not be government owned, …..
Would love Dan’s opinion of staying there?
Personally, I don’t enjoy staying there anymore as service went down the tubes. And I felt that a check-in agent there was anti-Semitic.
Agree. But you can’t beat the location and knowing you’ll get an ocean view room unlike the ritz.
Still wouldn’t stay there
Thanks Dan for this post.
How exactly is Qatar benefiting from us abusing their mileage program?
not abusing but agree not clear its a net gain for them, do we know what they pay JB?
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/airlines/aa/book-jetblue-flights-qatar-avios-including-transatlantic-business-class-just-29-8k-points-plus-save-big-aa-awards/#comment-1665781
Abusing?
What if they jihad our miles?
@dan The way you do things you are probably making them lose money so what’s the question?
Of course we should use Qatar miles!
If I book mint using Qatar Avios do I still get free same day change as a Mosaic member?
Can you book JetBlue and BA on one ticket?
Does using Qatar Avios end up being cheaper than using straight Jetblue points? I know Jetblue prices their award flights based on the monetary price of the flights. My question is, does Qatar avios price stay the same even when the tickets are very expensive and Jetblue will charge a fortune in miles?
The JFK-CDG screenshots are for the same date:
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/airlines/aa/book-jetblue-flights-qatar-avios-including-transatlantic-business-class-just-29-8k-points-plus-save-big-aa-awards/#JetBlue_points
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/airlines/aa/book-jetblue-flights-qatar-avios-including-transatlantic-business-class-just-29-8k-points-plus-save-big-aa-awards/#Booking_JetBlue_flights_with_Avios
And I been ranting about this for 3 years and you continued to belittle me. I think Klal Yisrael is owes an apology for the nonsensical posts promoting the terror airlines just because you can get some super machmir schechita food or non gebrokts in shower cabin. Ridiculous
1. {{Citation needed}}
2. I have never flown Qatar.
3. Qatar doesn’t have showers onboard their planes. Only Etihad and Emirates do.
Sounds to me like you’re mixing up the UAE, an Israeli ally, and Qatar, the Hamas supporters?
Nice of you for keeping cool to typical sabra behavior.
Lol, managed to mix in anti-chareidi sentiment in there, too. Guys, time to move past this type of bigotry.
Halevai!
Its not letting me seatch jetblue, as i have 0 points, is there a workaround
Yes, there are 2 search methods as outlined in the post.
Besides Qatar, I would avoid Dublin too
They fund Hamas?
Dunno but their rhetoric is alarming
Sadly, getting that from many sources.
Do you mean Dubai?
In that same vein Qatar is a 25% stake holder in IAG (BA, Iberia, Air Lingus, Vueling, Level).
Not really the same vein.
I think we have to differentiate between fully controlled and owned entities and other investments, no?
to transfer between qatar and ba avios is there a waiting period after opening accounts ?
Not that I’m aware of.
Is there a way to use my mint upgrade by booking economy through Qatar?
I wonder too
when booking by phone you can avoid the 2 day waiting period which can ensue when done online ?
Im not going to try and answer but I’d like to clarify the questions.
1) Is Qatar benefiting in this scenario?
It seems from the comments that we don’t have answer to this, but if the answer were to be yes, that would raise other questions such as using BA or Iberia Avios, as their parent company, IAG, is 20.1% owned by Qatar airways, or using Asia miles as Cathay Pacific is 9% owned by Qatar. Flying any of those airlines on a paid ticket could certainly be even more problematic.
2) Even if they are benefiting, from what Dan wrote at the beginning of the post, it seems unclear if they will continue to host or support Hamas so how do we weigh that?
Even if the answer to the first question is no, and they aren’t profiting, or they are no longer going to support Hamas there’s still another question,
3) Should we be in any way associated, even if we are benefiting and they are losing, with the national airline of a country which currently hosts and has so far given $1.8 billion to Hamas?
That would also bring up questions about Turkish Airlines, who’s government has also been a bit too cozy with Hamas, or Lufthansa, depending on how long it takes for the memory of 6 million neshamos to fade.
For ethical clarity the following two questions:
1. Does Qatar gain if I transfer BA Avios to Qatar Avios?
2. Does Qatar gain if I use these newly transfered BA points to purchase a JetBlue ticket?
To everyone bashing him – leave Dan alone. He is doing his job, which is providing the best possible info he can for people to try and save money. This is major travel news. Every other travel/points/lifestyle site is posting about this. Do you expect Dan to ignore this because Qatar Airlines may or may not be (somewhat) complicit with Hamas? Before you complain, did you do your research to make sure that whatever company you are buying from/dealing with is also not complicit?
At the end of the day, Dan is doing his job of providing info. What you do with it is your choice. If you feel that they are too helpful to Hamas – skip it. If you think that they are losing money on these tickets and taking advantage will cost them money/hurt their ability to help Hamas, go for it. But stop trying to shoot the messenger!
On a related note, what happened to the Tefillin campaign? It’s one of the most beautiful things I have ever seen. It used to be the top pinned post.
100%
by using such few quatar avios points for such generous mileage redemptions, seems likes its costing Quatar money? so why not use as many as possible?
I have tried forever combining my BA account with Qatar account. And it gives me an error saying that my DOB doesn’t match. When I’m fact it does match. Any advice?
Why does it say on the screenshot, from 90k points, when there is availability for 62k ? Btw I searched Dec 11 as shown on the screenshot nothing comes up for jetblue
Was Jetblue removed? Only seeing AA, BA, no Jetblue. Tried many different days, in coach or business/first.
I haven’t seen JB either now.
Once on this topic, would you fly Emirates or Etihad through the UAE at this time?
Certainly before Qatar.
Is there a similar option with Delta where another SkyTeam airline has fixed redemption rates to help overcome their dynamic domestic pricing?
Virgin atlantic and Air france are the 2 obvious choices.
But Delta releases very limited availability on international routes
Virgin Atlantic
Correct: https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/transfer-chase-points-virgin-atlantic-get-30-bonus-book-discounted-delta-awards-incredible-ana-bargains/
JetBlue has eliminated most of its flights between NYC and Florida beginning January.
That’s not true.
https://www.travelandleisure.com/jetblue-to-cut-northeast-2024-routes-8385083
EWR-MIA is a pittance of their NYC-Florida flights.
Also cutting number of flights jfk-Mia as well as well as numerous other Florida destinations
Again, not even remotely close to most.
MIA is their much newer and smaller operation that many avoid at all costs.
i was debating how i felt about doing this and then I asked myself, what if it was called Hamas air……no chance
It’s more nuanced than that, especially because Israel encouraged Qatar to donate to Hamas and Gaza.
But I certainly understand not wanting to have anything to do with Qatar right now.
Thank you for starting the article with The Elephant. But you don’t even need to check with your LOR on whether or not it’s advisable to fly with Qatar. The Israeli MFA just came out with a worldwide warning cautioning all Jews to hide outward signs of being Jewish.
That wasn’t what he suggested checking with your LOR. Read it again
You’re right; my bad: “Is using Qatar’s mileage program to save a bundle on JetBlue or AA flights the right thing to do at this point in time? It doesn’t seem the same as flying on Qatar now, but it’s certainly a tough ethical dilemma.”
I think Dan should weigh in on this question here. If someone uses Qatar’s mileage program but doesn’t fly Qatar, will Qatar earn any money from that transaction?
https://www.dansdeals.com/points-travel/milespoints/book-jetblue-flights-qatar-avios-including-transatlantic-business-class-just-29-8k-points-plus-save-big-aa-awards/#comment-1665781
I discovered upon trying to link Qatar to my BA Executive Club that it will only link if the first/last names and DOB match on both profiles. Qatar had the wrong birthdate for me (it had transposed date/month to month/date). The only way to correct this requires uploading two documents (e.g., driver’s license, passport). Should I have any concerns about sending these sensitive identity documents to Qatar Airways?
You think Qatar will pass on your info to Hamas?
Looks like qatar pulled all jetblue flights !!!
Goes both ways flying El Al after Israel is killing many innocent civilians. This whole thing on both sides is bad and both sides have their issues.
You don’t see any difference between Israel trying to destroy a terrorist group hiding behind human shields and there being unintentional civilian casualties, and Hamas intentionally butchering civilians with the goal of “wiping Israel off the map?” Your moral equivalence is what leads to tragedies like this you pathetic fool
I have no issues with people saying don’t fly Qatar. What Hamas did was deplorable. What I do not like is what Israel has done (albeit not purposely) with the death of so many innocent civilians in Gaza. Never said it was a moral equivalence. Both sides are doing bad things.
if you think (I hope not) that these people dying innocently is collateral damage then you sir are the fool.
You contradict yourself. First you say “What I do not like is what Israel has done (albeit not purposely) with the death of so many innocent civilians in Gaza”, then you say “if you think (I hope not) that these people dying innocently is collateral damage then you sir are the fool,” insinuating that Israel is purposely killing innocent civilians. So explain yourself, do you think is Israel intentionally targeting civilians or not?
Oh, and the statement “both sides are doing bad things” is called moral equivalency. It seems like you didn’t understand that
Both sides are doing bad things. I personally do not think they want to kill Palestinians but I do believe they see it as their only option which I would disagree with. While it’s a challenge no doubt I do not think these deaths are justified in Israel’s attempt to end Hamas. So back to my original statement. Qatar fine don’t fly it. Certainly if Hamas had an airline I’d never but to say Israel’s actions here don’t warrant not flying them to me makes no sense .
Do you think so far Israel has done it right? Do you think innocent people should continue to die until all of Hamas is gone? I’m curious on your take.
Oh and me saying I hope not was you thinking if that was collateral damage…not me hoping that it isn’t in purpose
You still didn’t explain why that’s not a contradiction. Here’s the definition of collateral damage according to Merriam-Webster: “injury inflicted on something other than an intended target
specifically: civilian casualties of a military operation.”
For example, Israel bombs a Mosque that’s stroring weapons, or a residential building housing Hamas militants, and civilians are also killed in the strike, that’s collateral damage.
So I’ll ask you again, how can you say that the civilians killed by Israel’s actions are “not purposely” but also say that I’m a fool if
I believe they’re collateral damage?
And yes, I believe Israel has the right to defend itself, meaning they have the right to destroy a terrorist group that wants to kill all of their civilians, and to bomb every weapons depot, command center, and tunnel necessry to do that. That doesn’t mean civilian casualties in Gaza aren’t tragic, they are, just like the 2 million German civilians that died during WW2, but I still think the Allies did the right thing in destroying the Nazi regime. Do you disagree? Do you think if a terrorist group hides behind civilians they’re immune and get to act with impunity? If not why are you suggesting a boycott of El Al?
Well I’m glad you at least recognize it is tragic however I believe they should have sent special forces in earlier. 2.2 million people can’t just all get up and leave. There are elderly, sick, injured and more that can’t just go. So what for them? I was not alive nor well versed on the specifics of the innocent civilians that died during WW2 so for me to comment much there wouldn’t be fair. I will say technology now to then is eons different so the capabilities of the IDF dwarf what we had 80 years ago. Of course they have a right to defend themselves I never said they don’t, I just think they should have approached this a bit different. I also NEVER said don’t target them you certainly can, just a bit different. So because of that, and my full disagreement with their efforts, I believe if you want to boycott Qatar, boycott el al.
You sound so confident that a special forces raid could resolve the situation, but guess what? They did send special forces in earlier, on October 13 to be exact, 6 days after the initial Hamas attack and they didn’t have much luck. You are clearly just as not well versed on this as you are on WW2. Also, while the capabilites of the IDF are far more advanced than they were 80 years ago, they are also facing a completely different challenge, a genocidal terrorist group embedded in the civilian infrastructure with total disregard for the lives of even their own civilians (car bombings on evacuation routes, misfired rockets landing on hospitals etc.) You say target them differently, how exactly? Do you think if the IDF could accomplish their objectives with less civilian casualties without losing their own soldiers they wouldn’t? What in the world do they gain with Palestinian civilians dying besides international condemnation? Civilian casualties are the unfortunate cost of war, not its objective.
I am well versed. IDF has some of the best special forces in the world. Regardless of that they’ve destroyed Gaza city and you can’t tell me that had to be done. You say this is just a casualty of war and say it so callously. Well agree to disagree but unlike you much of the world thinks what Israel has done has not been good. And what Israel is not thinking is how is this post Hamas? Much of the world is starting to dislike what Israel is doing. Things can only get worse elsewhere. It’s not just winning this war the way you want it is what is next. They are gaining more enemies. Just look at the UN votes on a ceasefire for humanitarian needs. Bigger picture here for the years to come. That’s what you do not seem to see.
You still haven’t answered my question, do you honestly believe that if Israel could’ve pulled off another Entebbe they wouldn’t have? Also, how in the world do you know what Israel is or isn’t thinking post Hamas? I do agree with what you pointed out that a lot of people are starting to fall for Hamas’ tactics of having as many civilian casualties as possible to garner the world’s sympathy, but I hope level headed leaders (or as you would call them, callous) continue to support Israel’s right to self defense. I looked at the UN vote and you know what I noticed (besides for the fact that Hamas was very in favor of the resolution)? The US, Canada, Australia, India, S. Korea, Japan and more than half of Europe either voted against it or abstained. I wonder if they know something about dealing with radical Islamist militants that you don’t seem to understand.
We are straying away here. Bottom line is you find it okay that all these civilians are dying (not that you want them to but you feel it is just based on the situation) and I do not. That is the disagreement. Because of said disagreement I feel that what they are doing is wrong and unjust. I feel like they should take matters differently whatever it is that may be. I am not a military general but too many people are dying. Too many hospitals are falling and people cannot get help. You are essentially okay with that by thinking what is going on is the only way. That to me is wrong.
That is not a logical argument, it’s an emotional one. Come back when you have something logical to say. Until then, please let my brave brothers and sisters in the IDF do what they need to do to eradicate Hamas and rescue the hostages.
Sure, let them kill anyone in their path. Great theory. When andhopefully hamas is gone, let’s see the antisemitism then. Which is a shame. Go ahead and support these killings. Good for you. I hope you sheep at night. I support these peoples lives anyone that is innocent. Do better Israel. Kill Hamas, not 10k and counting innocent people. I’m done here. You are not able to see both sides
Do you realize that by continuing to criticize Israel for the deaths of Gazan civilians, you encourage Hamas to continue placing their rocket launchers, weapons caches, command centers, and tunnels, under schools, mosques, hospitals, residential buildings, and market places? I hope YOU can sleep at night
yup, so just kill them all. DO BETTER ISRAEL. They can go about different tactics. Yes I can. I am Jewish and I support their war efforts MINUS this incessant amt of casualties. I get some innocent will die but this is outrageous. Lets just agree to disagree. Arguing over online forums really is a waste of time. Hopefully Hamas is rid of and things will be better. I am sure we can agree on that and leave it there.
Qatar brought back JetBlue flights but it’s showing (and called and they confirmed) 74K for one way from JFK-SFO.
Not sure what changed
Anyone scored BOS-DUB for 28k was a steal!
Do they charge surcharges on AA LHR to USA?
You can search via the link in the post.
Is there a way to get the Blue Extra fare in order to get free same day changes when booking through Qatar?
No
How do I know if there is availably if the city does not come up and I need to use the other search method? I do not want to transfer before knowing id there is availability.
Call Qatar.
Sounds like Qatar wasn’t happy with Dan’s opening statement…
if you were going for status and all is the same, would you go for Jet Blue or delta?
Real antisemites. Couldn’t even give us a good deal for a day
Anyone tried booking online vs calling them up? Online booking is not a confirmed booking?
On the phone is Instant but can take a while, online is just requesting it and they get back to you by email if the tickets was confirmed
If I would like to book a route not showing in their award search, can I transfer enough miles for one ticket and then transfer more if it if they say it’s available?