All About Mileage Expiration And Transfer Options For 58 Loyalty Programs: Ultimate Points Chart, Keep Points From Expiring, And Bring Them Back To Life!

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Originally posted on 2/18/15:

Expiration of credit card points:

-Points earned from an airline or hotel credit card, where the points are deposited monthly into your airline/hotel account like Starwood, are not forfeited by closing the card.  The points are subject to the normal expiration dates listed in the chart below. Some representatives use scare tactics and say that all of your points or tickets will be lost if you cancel the card, but it’s just misinformation.

-Credit card point programs (American Express Membership Rewards, Barclays Arrival Premier, Citi ThankYou Points, Chase Ultimate Rewards, etc.) do not expire as long as you keep at least one card open that is enrolled in their respective program. Some programs store points individually under each card account, so be sure to transfer points from that card account to another account before cancelling that card. If you do accidentally close a card before moving the points to another card you can try reactivating the card, moving the points over, and cancelling the card once again. Note that only select cards from each program have the ability to transfer points into miles.

Keeping points alive:

There are thousands of ways to generate activity to keep points alive.

-One easy and free method that works with many programs is to book an award flight or hotel night and then cancel it. Be sure that the airline allows for free cancellations on award flights or the hotel allows for free cancellations before doing this. Note that this will extend miles in many, though not in all programs. It has worked for me with British Airways, United, and IHG, among others.

-Another easy way to extend your miles is by redeeming a few hundred miles for a magazine subscription. Redeeming miles is safer than the various methods of earning miles, as point earnings don’t always post and it can turn into a fight in case your account expires. But as with everything else in life when you’re paying for something you can be sure that it will always post without any fighting required 😉

-United’s MileagePlus X app allows you to earn miles when buying gift cards and it also a good way to renew miles.

-If you have transferable points you can move points from programs like AMEX, Chase, Citi, or Starwood to an airline to keep your entire account alive. Note that some airlines require the name on the Starwood account to match the name on the airline account. You can transfer Starpoints to anyone registered with an account at your address and from there transfer points to an airline. If your Starpoints themselves are expiring, all you need to do is make a simple transfer from you to your spouse or someone else living at your address and that counts as activity that will keep both of your accounts alive for another 18 months.

-Marriott points have a more strict expiration policy than Starpoints, so it’s a good idea to transfer your Marriott points to your Starwood account. Starwood extends the life of your points just for that transfer, though transfer activity doesn’t extend Marriott points.

Reactivating expired miles:

I have saved the miles of family members and close friends by crediting past car rentals towards their airline mileage accounts. Most car rentals earn a nominal amount of airline miles, but you can call the car rental company to credit anyone’s airline mileage account up to a year after the car rental.  If someone lost their miles 6 months ago you would have to locate a car rental from more than 6 months ago, but less than 12 months ago.  Shortly after the miles post to their account it should automatically reactivate all of their miles retroactively to the date of the car rental.  Just don’t forget to add new activity to prevent that from happening again!

There’s even a market for old car rental credits on DDF and it works great! For about $25 you can find people who can help reactivate your expired miles.

The same process would work for past hotel stays or other activities that can be credited towards airline miles.

Some airlines, like British Airways, will actually reinstate miles for free if you just call and ask nicely. BA will give you 3 additional months to use or redeem some miles to keep your account alive for another 3 years.

Other airlines like United and American will charge to reactivate miles, but those are often worthwhile if you don’t have any other avenues.

American also has a unique challenge that I wrote about in 2009 that allows you to reactivate miles by completing tasks like opening a credit card or flying on a paid AA flight. Since then they’ve added a small fee to take that challenge, but it should be much cheaper than paying to reactivate the miles outright. United also have a challenge to reinstate miles with a small fee.

Points transfers:

In the chart below you can see transfer options from American Express Membership Rewards, Barclays Arrival Premier, Chase Ultimate Rewards, Citi ThankYou, or Starwood Starpoints. Note that the rates below don’t factor in limited time promotions (like this one for Avianca Lifemiles) that temporarily increase the transfer ratio,

AMEX cards with transferable points include:

Barclays cards with transferable points include:

Chase cards with transferable points include:

Starpoint earning cards include:

  • Starwood Consumer AMEX Click Here to get more details on this card and compare to other hotel cards!
  • Starwood Business AMEX Click Here to get more details on this card and compare to other hotel cards!
  • Chase Marriott Click Here to get more details on this card and compare to other hotel cards!

Citi cards with transferable points include:

  • Chairman, Premier, and Prestige.

 

You can transfer 1 Starwood Starpoint into 3 Marriott Rewards points, which has made for more lucrative transfer options than ever. When the chart below mentions Starwood and Marriott, it factors in transferring 1 Starpoint into 3 Marriott points.

Marriott has regular mileage transfers and lucrative miles+nights transfers that are only redeemable over the phone and allow you to earn miles and free hotel nights. For example 90K Starpoints transfers into 270K Marriott points which can be transferred into 132K United miles and 7 nights in a Marriott category 1-5 hotel. Those 7 nights can potentially be refunded back into Marriott points, however the program’s complexity is beyond the scope of this post, you can read all about the nuances of how to maximize that reward in this post.

Other hotel programs also have mileage transfer options, but the transfer ratios are typically quite poor and are therefore not included in this post.

In general, there is no good way to transfer miles from an airline program to any other program. Once they are in an airline mileage program they are stuck there, they can’t be reverted into credit card points, hotel points, etc. That’s why it’s normally a good idea to keep your points as credit card points or hotel points until you are ready to redeem them.

Mileage expiration policies:

There are 4 main categories of expiration policies.

  1. All miles can be extended with any redemption activity, including earning miles, transferring miles from a credit card or hotel program, or using miles. In these cases I’ve highlighted “redeem or earn” in the chart below.
  2. All miles can be extended only by earning miles, including earning miles or transferring miles from a credit card or hotel program. In these cases I’ve highlighted “earn” in the chart below.
  3. All miles can be extended only by taking a paid flight and crediting that flight to the program. It’s important to make sure that the flight is in a fare class that earns miles, which you can do by calling the airline or checking a site like WhereToCredit. Most programs in this category also allow partner flights to extend the validity of your miles, though LATAM requires a LATAM flight only. In these cases I’ve highlighted “earn…from a paid flight” in the chart below.
  4. Miles can’t be extended with activity. Each mile earned will expire a certain amount of time after they are earned and you must use it by the deadline or it will be forfeited. In these cases I’ve highlighted “regardless of activityin the chart below.
Airline/HotelMileage TransfersAllianceExpiration
ANAAMEX MR 1K:1K.

Starwood 20K:25K

Starwood 90K:85K+ 7 Marriott nights
Star AllianceMiles expire after 36 months, regardless of activity.
AeroflotStarwood 23.3K:25K via Marriott

Starwood 90K:85K+ 7 Marriott nights
SkyteamYou must earn 1 mile every 24 months from a paid flight to extend the validity of your miles.
AegeanStarwood 20K:25KStar AllianceYou must earn 1 mile every 60 months from a paid flight to extend the validity of your miles.
Aer LingusChase 1K:1KNone, but partners with select airlines like BA, Etihad, and UnitedYou must redeem or earn 1 mile every 36 months to extend the validity of your miles.
AeroMexicoAMEX MR 1K:1.6K

Barclays AP 1.4K:1K

Starwood 20K:25K

Starwood 90K:120K+ 7 Marriott nights
SkyteamYou must earn 1 mile every 24 months to extend the validity of your miles.
Air Canada AeroplanAMEX MR 1K:1K.

Starwood 20K:25K

Starwood 90K:120K+ 7 Marriott nights
Star AllianceYou must redeem or earn 1 mile every 12 months to extend the validity of your miles.

Accounts belonging to minors under 18 are exempt from the expiry policy until they turn 18.

Aeroplan's relationship with Air Canada will end 6/30/20.
Air ChinaStarwood 20K:25K

Starwood 90K:85K+ 7 Marriott nights
Star AllianceMiles expire on 12/31 that occurs more than 24 months after they were earned, regardless of activity.
Air France/KLM Flying BlueAMEX MR 1K:1K

Barclays AP 1.4K:1K

Chase UR 1K:1K

Citi TY: 1K:1K

Starwood 20K:25K

Starwood 90K:85K+ 7 Marriott nights
SkyteamYou must earn 1 mile every 24 months from a paid flight to extend the validity of your miles.
Air New ZealandStarwood 20K:385Star AllianceMiles expire on account signup anniversary that is at least 48 months from when miles were earned, regardless of activity.
Alaska Starwood 20K:25K

Starwood 90K:120K+ 7 Marriott nights
None, but partners with select airlines like AA, BA, Cathay Pacific, Emirates, Korean, Qantas, and SingaporeYou must redeem or earn 1 mile every 24 months to extend the validity of your miles.
AlitaliaAMEX MR 1K:1K.

Starwood 20K:25K

Starwood 90K:85K+ 7 Marriott nights
SkyteamAll miles expire annually on 1/31, regardless of activity.
AmericanStarwood 20K:25K

Starwood 90K:120K+ 7 Marriott nights
OneWorldYou must redeem or earn 1 mile every 18 months to extend the validity of your miles.
AsianaStarwood 20K:25K

Starwood 90K:85K+ 7 Marriott nights
Star AllianceMiles expire after 10 years, regardless of activity.
Avianca LifemilesCiti TY: 1K:1K

Starwood 20K:25K

Starwood 90K:85K+ 7 Marriott nights
Star AllianceMiles earned before 4/15/18: You must redeem or earn 1 mile every 24 months to extend the validity of your miles.

Miles earned on or after 4/15/18: You must earn 1 mile every 12 months to extend the validity of your miles.
British AirwaysAMEX MR 1K:1K

Chase UR 1K:1K

Starwood 20K:25K

Starwood 90K:120K+ 7 Marriott nights
OneWorldYou must redeem or earn 1 mile every 36 months to extend the validity of your miles.
Cathay Pacific Asia MilesAMEX MR 1K:1K.

Citi TY: 1K:1K

Starwood 20K:25K

Starwood 90K:85K+ 7 Marriott nights
OneWorldMiles expire after 36 months, regardless of activity.
China EasternBarclays AP 1.4K:1K

Starwood 20K:25K

Starwood 90K:85K+ 7 Marriott nights
SkyteamMiles expire on 12/31 that occurs more than 36 months after they were earned, regardless of activity.
China SouthernStarwood 20K:25KSkyteamMiles expire after 36 months, regardless of activity.
CopaStarwood 23.3K:25K via Marriott

Starwood 90K:120K+ 7 Marriott nights
Star AllianceYou must redeem or earn 1 mile every 24 months to extend the validity of your miles.
DeltaAMEX MR 1K:1K

Starwood 20K:25K

Starwood 90K:120K+ 7 Marriott nights
SkyteamNo Expiration.
EVABarclays AP 1.4K:1K

Citi TY: 1K:1K
Star AllianceMiles expire at the end of the 36th month after they were earned, regardless of activity.
El AlAMEX MR 1,000:20NoneMiles expire after 36 months, regardless of activity.
EmiratesAMEX MR 1K:1K.

Starwood 20K:25K

Starwood 90K:85K+ 7 Marriott nights
None, but partners with select airlines like Alaska, JAL, and KoreanMiles expire after 3 years (at the end of your birth month), regardless of activity.
EtihadAMEX MR 1K:1K

Barclays AP 1.4K:1K

Citi TY: 1K:1K

Starwood 20K:25K

Starwood 90K:85K+ 7 Marriott nights
None, but partners with select airlines like ANA, American, Brussels, and Korean.Miles expire 24 months after they were earned, regardless of activity.
FrontierStarwood 23.3K:25K via Marriott

Starwood 90K:120K+ 7 Marriott nights
NoneYou must earn 1 mile every 6 months to extend the validity of your miles.
Garuda Citi TY: 1K:1KSkyteamMiles expire after 36 months, regardless of activity.
GOLStarwood 23.3K:25K via Marriott

Starwood 90K:120K+ 7 Marriott nights
None, but partners with select airlines like Delta.Miles expire after 36 months, regardless of activity.
HainanStarwood 20K:25KNoneYou must redeem or earn 1 mile every 24 months to extend the validity of your miles.
HawaiianAMEX MR 1K:1K

Starwood 20K:25K

Starwood 90K:120K+ 7 Marriott nights
None, but partners with several airlines.You must redeem or earn 1 mile every 18 months to extend the validity of your miles.
IberiaAMEX MR 1K:1K

Chase UR 1K:1K

Starwood 20K:25K

Starwood 90K:120K+ 7 Marriott nights
OneWorldYou must redeem or earn 1 mile every 36 months to extend the validity of your miles.
JALBarclays AP 1.7K:1K

Starwood 20K:25K

Starwood 90K:85K+ 7 Marriott nights
OneWorldMiles expire after 36 months, regardless of activity.
Jet AirwaysBarclays AP 1.4K:1K

Citi TY: 1K:1K

Starwood 20K:25K

Starwood 90K:85K+ 7 Marriott nights
None, but partners with select airlines like United.Miles expire at the end of each quarter, 3 years after they were earned, regardless of activity.
JetblueAMEX MR 250:200

Citi TY 1K:500

Starwood 23.3K:12.5K via Marriott

Starwood 90K:60K+ 7 Marriott nights
NoneNo Expiration.
Korean Chase UR 1K:1K

Starwood 20K:25K

Starwood 90K:85K+ 7 Marriott nights
SkyteamMiles expire after 10 years, regardless of activity.
LATAMStarwood 20K:37.5K
OneWorldYou must earn 1 mile every 36 months from a paid LATAM flight to extend the validity of your miles.
Lufthansa/Swiss Miles & MoreStarwood 20K:25K

Starwood 90K:85K+ 7 Marriott nights
Star AllianceMiles expire after 36 months, regardless of activity.

If you have a Miles & More credit card and use it monthly, then your miles will not expire.

If you have Miles & More elite status miles will not expire.
MalaysiaBarclays AP 1.4K:1K

Citi TY: 1K:1K
OneWorldMiles expire at the end of the 36th month after they were earned, regardless of activity.
QantasBarclays AP 1.4K:1K

Citi TY: 1K:1K

Starwood 23.3K:17.5K via Marriott

Starwood 90K:85K+ 7 Marriott nights
OneWorldYou must redeem or earn 1 mile every 18 months to extend the validity of your miles.
QatarCiti TY: 1K:1K

Starwood 20K:25K

Starwood 90K:85K+ 7 Marriott nights
OneWorldMiles expire on 06/30 or 12/31 that occurs more than 36 months after they were earned, regardless of activity.
SaudiaStarwood 20K:25K

Starwood 90K:85K+ 7 Marriott nights
SkyteamMiles expire on 12/31 that occurs more than 36 months after they were earned, regardless of activity.
SingaporeAMEX MR 1K:1K

Chase UR 1K:1K

Citi TY: 1K:1K

Starwood 20K:25K

Starwood 90K:85K+ 7 Marriott nights

Virgin Australia 1.35K:1K
Star AllianceMiles expire after 36 months, regardless of activity.
South AfricanStarwood 23.3K:17.5K via Marriott

Starwood 90K:85K+ 7 Marriott nights
Star AllianceMiles expire after 36 months, regardless of activity.
SouthwestChase UR 1K:1K

Starwood 23.3K:25K via Marriott

Starwood 90K:120K+ 7 Marriott nights
NoneYou must earn 1 mile every 24 months to extend the validity of your miles.
SpiritNoneNone You must earn 1 mile every 3 months to extend the validity of your miles.
TAPStarwood 23.3K:17.5K via Marriott

Starwood 90K:85K+ 7 Marriott nights
Star AllianceMiles expire after 36 months, regardless of activity.
ThaiCiti TY: 1K:1K

Starwood 20K:25K
Star AllianceMiles expire after at the end of each quarter, 3 years after they were earned, regardless of activity.
TurkishCiti TY 1K:1K

Starwood 23.3K:17.5K via Marriott

Starwood 90K:85K+ 7 Marriott nights
Star AllianceMiles expire after 36 months, regardless of activity.
United Chase UR 1K:1K

Starwood 18.6K:25K via Marriott

Starwood 90K:132K+ 7 Marriott nights
Star AllianceYou must redeem or earn 1 mile every 18 months to extend the validity of your miles.

If you have a United Explorer or Club credit card miles will never expire.
Virgin AtlanticAMEX MR 1K:1K

Chase UR 1K:1K

Citi TY: 1K:1K

Starwood 20K:25K

Starwood 90K:120K+ 7 Marriott nights
None, but partners with select airlines like ANA, Delta, and Singapore.You must redeem or earn 1 mile every 36 months to extend the validity of your miles.
Virgin Australia Starwood 20K:25K

Singapore 1.35K:1K
None, but partners with select airlines like Delta, Etihad, and Singapore.You must redeem or earn 1 mile every 24 months to extend the validity of your miles.
Choice PrivilegesAMEX MR 1K:1K-You must redeem or earn 1 point every 18 months to extend the validity of your points.
Club CarlsonNone-You must redeem or earn 1 point every 18 months to extend the validity of your points.
HiltonAMEX MR 1K:2K

Chase UR via Virgin Atlantic 1K:1.5K

Citi TY: 1K:1.5K

Starwood via Virgin Atlantic 20K:37.5K
-You must redeem or earn 1 point every 12 months to extend the validity of your points.
Hyatt Chase UR 1K:1K-You must redeem or earn 1 point every 24 months to extend the validity of your points.
IHGChase UR 1K:1K-You must redeem or earn 1 point every 12 months to extend the validity of your points.
Marriott/RitzAMEX MR 1K:1K via Starwood

Chase UR 1K:1K

Starwood 1K:3K
-You must redeem or earn 1 point every 24 months to extend the validity of your points.

Note that transferring points and social media points do not count as activity.
Starwood AMEX MR 1K:333

Marriott 3K:1K
-You must redeem or earn 1 point every 18 months to extend the validity of your points. (12 months stated policy plus 6 months grace period)

Points can be reactivated if you call and ask nicely 🙂
AmtrakStarwood 1K:1K-You must redeem or earn 1 point every 36 months to extend the validity of your points.

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153 Comments on "All About Mileage Expiration And Transfer Options For 58 Loyalty Programs: Ultimate Points Chart, Keep Points From Expiring, And Bring Them Back To Life!"

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Mike

I have chase points and want to get Starwood instead. Anyway I can do that?

Bill from Maine

If they are UR points, transfer to Marriott and than link your SPG account to transfer at 3:1 ratio.

MIL215

This is usually not recommended as the transfer ratio sucks and you can normally book through Chase’s portal cheaper.

Not always, so make sure you do the math on the redemption.

ur to sw?

Will a 1k UR transfer extend the expiration immediately for Southwest?

Dan

@Mike:
Sure, open a Starwood card and start earning Starpoints.

No, Chase points do not transfer to Starwood.

@ur to sw?:
Sure.

Tony

Chase UR points can be transferred indirectly to SPG but transferring UR to Marriott (1:1) then Marriott to SPG (3:1)

Anonymous

enterprise told me they don’t participate with Frequent flyer accounts?

Ben

@Dan should we still be calling them “Skypesos” I mean you can now get to Israel for 40K direct, and Delta doesn’t “break guitars” 😉

mike

40K direct? what dates? I’ve never seen that.

Dan

@Anonymous:
They actually do participate with some airlines, but they are one of the exceptions to the general rule (and why I said most).

@Ben:
Considering this bush league move they pulled, most definitely,
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/61118

They can make changes whenever they want now without even having to announce them.

Eli

@Ben: still pesos, because flying blue is 25k. And AA doesn’t break guitars either

AN...

DO ULTIMATE REWARDS EXPIRE

Sam

Dan –
My Etihad miles (2 yrs expiry time) expired, around 5000 of them. They are counting my last flight (that I took Feb 2013) accrued miles as the last activity. This is inspite of me having activity of hotel stay etc later in that year, which is still within 2 yrs. I contacted them and their response was rather stern. They said they weighed all the options and cannot re-instate the miles now. Any thoughts?

SW

Does booking a SW milage ticket, then cancelling, extend the life of SW miles?

ericmedschoolgnd

@Dan: i just looked at all the site .. none of the sites offer “the week” magazine.. or am i missing something.. oh well.. if you ever see a good deal lmk!

Confused

Are SPG points really only good for 20K:12.5K united miles? This seems to be half the amount of the other airlines (20K:25K)?

Yanky

Is there any way to get awarded for Hertz Car rental in Israel ??

Ben

Personally, I see Delta seems to have improved. I recently flew with them from Tel Aviv Direct (via hidden city fare… thanks to @Dan), and it was my best direct flight ever. Also their miles program improved at lesat for the time being, which is why I sine up for the 50k offer which I got targeted for…

TS

Anyone know how to keep Air Berlin miles from expiring? They emailed me with an offer to open their credit card, but I’m not sure if anyone had experience with some other method.

yankel

air berlin doesnt exist anymore but then again i’m not sure if you were serious or not

DaBomb

Article was originally written in 2015…

bracha

My United miles expired in September. If anyone can help me reinstate them, I would greatly appreciate it!

Newyorkjets

You are a GENIUS!! I found out last week my daughters 62,000 aa miles expired in October. I was davening over paying the $400 plus tax to reinstate when I saw this post. Just called hertz re rental last March. Credited rental to my daughters aa ac and should be good to go. Thank you so much!!

Yaks

For ba if I book a ticket but cancel it within 24 hours (no fee but they debited the miles and then put them back in) does that work to extend it?

jerry

Amtrak I believe that if you have their chase credit card, the miles will not expire

mark

do points earned through shopping count?

tova

i’m new at this…how can you get airline mile credit for car rentals? our AA points expired and i would be very happy if i can reactivate them through prior car rentals i just don’t get how it works! thanks for your help!!

Dan

@AN…:
Read the 2nd paragraph of this post.

@Sam:
Etihad miles expire after 3 years regardless of activity.

@SW:
If I had to guess I’d say that probably wouldn’t work with Southwest.

@Confused:
That’s correct.

@Yanky:
No clue, sorry.

@Ben:
The flights are good, their mileage program is uber shady.

@TS:
I don’t think there’s a way to extend them.

@Newyorkjets:
Congrats!

@Yaks:
I’d wait until after 24 hours, pay the $5.60 cancel fee and you should be good to go.

@jerry:
Yup.

@mark:
Sure.

@tova:
Call the car rental company.

lyla

Dan,
Only thank you points that are earned from a credit card do not expire. TY points that are earned from citigold, banking or sign up bonuses do expire. I should know because I had 37K ty points expire and had to beg to get them reinstated.

Dan

@lyla:
True, the 2nd paragraph only mentions credit card points.

DaninMCI

@TS you can earn air berlin miles by doing hotel reviews at holiday check or by linking a sixt car rental account or by signing up for some of the various promos on the website. I would take advantage of the card also though.

Dan

@DaninMCI:
None of those things will stop them from expiring.

lyla

@Dan:
I see that now. I just didn’t want anyone to think that all ty points don’t expire at all. ty points are the only points that you mention that can be earned in multiple ways. I don’t want anyone to get burned like I did. I know ty points are for the most part useless but at least you can still get gcs with them. The singapore transfer is good only with ty points earned from cc not banking (which I have most of my points from).

chaim

Do you have a chart showing which milage accounts can be saved by wich car rentals….
(specifically BA)

Josh

Any way to reinstate points accrued from flying on Lufthansa Miles and More once they expired?
Would this car rental technique help for this? Again, these are points earned from flying and not from a credit card signup. TIA

Dk23

Is there a post or thread that discusses the most to least valuable types of miles? Might be interested in getting one of those mags that my subscription is expiring for.

Ari J

Any nifty way to get Chase UR into AA? Can one xfer chase UR into starwood via virgin, then from starwood into AA? Is that right or is there an easier/simpler/better wsy?

Meir

Any way to keep Hyatt points from expiring other than transferring in more points from chase ?

DeltaFLYR

Dan,

In the wake of all the Delta changes, you might want to reconsider your term “Skypesos” I think “Skyrubles” is more accurate. Plus, its more fun to say rubles.

rots5

Great post – thanks.

What about Aegean

David

I have some miles with Singapore Airlines. Is there a minimum number of miles that I would need to transfer in from Chase Ultimate Rewards to extend the expiration or could I simply transfer one mile?

Andrew

with Aegean , one has to consider whether the points get cancelled, as well as whether the account gets cancelled for no activity. It is also relevant what tier status one has.

I can’t imagine that Dan will be able to answer the Aegean expiration policy as it is too complicated for any mere mortal to understand.

My situation is miles earned in April 2013, gold status earned at the same time, no travel since then and travel currently difficult (so hard to earn more miles or use the miles that i already have). Wish I understood the expiry — I would take a 23 minute flight at the last possible date if it significantly extended the expiration (but the 23 minute flight would be costly due to high fares, and I would have to take a boat back and several buses, so a whole day would be involved).

If you can clarify Aegean expiration it would be appreciated — the Greek c.s.r. Do not understand their own program.

Your chart above is so very very useful, thank you

Moshe

I wanna close my Amex green because of the fee from Which hotel will I get the most out of my points

Andrew

Dan, I think citi TY point to all program is 1k:1k except hilton. https://www.thankyou.com/partnerProgramsListing.jspx

chuck

I had 30k aa points expire called and mentioned the challenge they said even if you open a new card account you need to spend 5k not just 750 is it huca or has the policy changed in the last 5 years

Aussie

It seems that qantas is the only airline that has a decent partnership with elal -45k for direct flight. Are there any credit cards that work with them.

Bob

Amtrak points actually expire after the account is 36 months from the last paid trip, meaning that if you don’t pay for travel and your account is 36 months old, even points transferred will be subject to expiration immediately…

rots5

@Andrew:

Andrew, See, to me i would rather rack up a few useless points in order to keep my current gold status. Meaning, even if i do fly any star alliance i will put in my Number in order to get the points and keep the account active.

chaim

Thanks a lot for this. Any chance to include south African airways?

Clare N

@Bob:
Amtrak points don’t expire as long as you have their credit card. I know this is true, because it has been much longer than 3 years since I have a paid trip and my points are still there.

Username

When i click on the mileage posts tab, this post does not come up.

Anonymous

Did any one ever get a financial review from amex if yes what triggered it know of people that spend 10 thousand dollars on business platinum and got triggered and to man additionals can also can any 1 post if they got a fr and what triggered it

Eli

How do I transfer chase rewards to Hyatt? The only transfer options see is to combine points.

ExGingi

@Dan: In your opinion would it be better to use 40,000 Skypesos which are already in an account + 27 in Taxes, or to Transfer 11,000 MR or TY points to top off a FlyingBlue account to get the same flight for a Total of 25,000 FlyingBlue miles +100 in Taxes and surcharges?

satatt

any ideas on how to easily extend Hyatt or Marriott points would be welcome. they are implementing new expiration policies in beginning of 2016. thanks.

Stephen

Just booked last minute one way return flight SFO to BDL On August 1th for only 12,500 Delta miles. Would have cost $396 if purchased. Point is they won’t get you great value for first class flights or anything but there is still pretty good redemptions to be had traveling cross country domestically. It’s not useless by any stretch of the imagination. Using Delta miles enables me to save my Star Alliance points for other flights.

yanki

AAdvantage will expire even if I have a citi AA or Barclay’s AA card ?

Yaakov

Anyone want to trade some Hertz (maybe some others would also work) rentals uncredited to a program? I would like to revive some United accounts. Needs to be between Aug ’14 and Apr ’15.

Yaakov

@yanki: Yes

United

@dan I got a lot of United miles that expired how can I get them back?

Dan

@Eli:
You need a Sapphire Preferred or Ink Plus.

@yanki:
Yes.

@United:
When did they expire?

United

@dan About 18months ago

Mark

Dan,
I had 42k united miles expire feb 1 2016.
Is there any way to get reinstated?

oompaloompa

@dan If I have a small pool of Virgin America Elevate points is there anything I can do to redeem them on? I can’t seem to find a magazines portal for them… Thanks!

Doug

@yanki: if you have either of those cards why not just make a $1 charge somewhere with it to extend the expiration? Am I missing something?

mordy

Any way to reinstate continental/united miles that expired 2.5 years ago??

Dan's the Man

What’s the expiration policy of Starwood points?

yanki

@Doug:
I have the card and I use it and I just wanted to know if having the card alone will not keep the points from expiring

Marky

Anyone want to trade some Hertz (maybe some others would also work) rentals uncredited to a program? I would like to revive some United accounts. Needs to be between January 2014 and April 2015

Anonymous

I am looking to retrieve my expired united miles as well. Please let me know if j can help. Ty

Anonymous

@Yaakov:
Can you help me as well?

Eli

Hilton “Starwood via Virgin Atlantic 20K:37.5K”. how does this work?

Dan

@Anonymous:
@Anonymous:
DDF thread here:
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=48643.0

@Eli:
20K Starwood transfers into 25K Virgin Atlantic.
25K Virgin Atlantic transfers into 37.5K Hilton.

Alan

Dear Dan:
1. I have a grand total of 4,071 Hyatt points — which will expire in January due to inactivity.
2. I do not want to get the Hyatt credit card this year — because I will not be able to use the 2 free nights before they expire. (Currently, I can’t travel due to illness. But I hope to travel again starting in 2017.) I am also home-bound — and can’t go to eat at a Hyatt hotel restaurant.
3. The price that Hyatt charges to buy 1,000 points is not a good value.
4. I can’t get the Chase Sapphire Preferred card — because I have had many more than 5 credit card applications in the last 24 months.
5. Any suggestions as to how I can — inexpensively — keep my 4,071 Hyatt points from expiring?
Thanks in advance!

Dan

@Alan:
Booking a refundable cash and points stay should extend their life, YMMV.

Also there is no hard and fast 5 card 24 month rule, exceptions are made all the time.

steve

i have 185K with chase and 65k with american airlines.
How do i know when it expires?

ppm

I have 21,618 united miles. They don’t let me book hotel rewards. How can I use it on hotels?

MA

If Amer Express will not cancel my yearly fee, and i close my acct will I forfeit the bonus sign-up points? I don’t have another Amer Express except for Serve. Can I transfer the points.

Alan

Dan — Thank you very much!!!

Moe

Anyone know how to find cheapest rate on hotel? Priceline? Cancellation policy? Any assistance would be appreciated:)

Sam

Any way to “revive” hilton points?

everythingjosh

Dan, I had my wife’s southwest points accidentally expire two months ago, and had two separate rentals that I thought would work. After my account wasn’t reactivated I contacted SW, and they contacted the rental agency (Payless) to check the reservation so they could reactivate the points. They then told me that since the reservation wasn’t under her name (it was under mine), they couldn’t do anything to help… My other was with budget and that also seems to not be working. Are there any agencies which don’t require the names to match? Is this a new issue? You don’t mention anything about this issue in your post, so I’d appreciate if I could get some insight. Thanks in advance!

Max

@Alan:
@Dan:
Another option for Hyatt points would be to transfer them to the Hyatt account of a close family member or friend (e.g. your spouse). If you wish, you even could arrange to transfer the points back to your personal Hyatt account at a later date to roundtrip the points. For Hyatt, transfers between accounts are free. Immediately after transferring the points to a new account, the points would reset for another 12 months. This approach should work with other travel rewards programs, though ymmv.

DanR

Looking for receipt to re-activate my United miles that expired. I need a rental receipt from 05/31/2015 – 10/31/2015. Please PM me on DD forums (DanR) will to pay

Thanks

YGX

Beautiful!! Was just about to look for this this weekend. Started doing my yearly mileage refresher as part of filing my tax returns as a reminder, but haven’t had a chance to yet this year!

baglach

How long does typ to quantas take to post?

Sol

@Dan Hi I have expired aeroplan miles…any thing to do about that? Thanks

Yehuda

You can reactivate them for a fee per mile. I looked into it about a year ago and remember debating whether the fee was worthwhile……
I also don’t remember how long that offer lasts after they’ve expired.

Andrew

Wyndham?

Arnie

If i want to jump from Amex to Prestige, id there a way to transfer my miles somewhere

anon

my virgin atlantic miles expired 7 months ago
can I reinstate them?

Shulem

What’s the best thing to do with city thank you points? or where do they transfer the best?

swch

Looking for receipt to reinstate my United miles that expired. I need a rental receipt from prior to 4/1/2016. Please find me on DD forums (SWCH) I am willing to pay.

Thanks

hs

Can I transfer points from Miles and More to Starwood and then to Delta?

nn

Any info on Hertz? And any way to get them back?

Eli2

Was thinking of putting some paid flights in air Canada to Turkish because iirc they allow pooling points with family members. What’s their expiration policy?

Gart

Great chart. The only problem with this post is that you can no longer use points for a subscription to the “The Economist”. Really bums me out.

David

@swch, @dan

I have a rental with rentalcar.com and they have no clue what I am talking about when I ask to add my mileage plus account number from united to the reservation. Same with Avis. Hertz says it is possible but only prior to the start of the rental. I also have a hotel reservation in Yerushalayim but they don’t know anything about it either. What am I missing??

Wingit

I was told (by IHG?) that IHG points do not expire if you have a Chase IHG card. Can someone confirm this from personal experience?

LoLo

Should update post that M&M needs activity on card ‘every single month’ to keep them alive.

Lotsa people making this mistake.

andrew rogers

I noticed you didn’t say transferred, only earned or redeemed–I want to transfer miles from chase ult rewards to British avios to avoid xpireation–any ideas? should be free as well. and looks like there is NO way to extend Am Air miles if you no longer hve a credit card??

Myi

If your asking such a question that means you didn’t read the post correctly, reread the post and then ask away.

British Airways AMEX MR 250:250

Chase UR 1K:1K

Starwood 20K:25K

Starwood 90K:120K+ 7 Marriott nights OneWorld No expiration as long as you redeem or earn at least 1 mile every 36 months.

Davidthebest

Dan if I have a citi thank you preferred CC, are the points transferable to airlines ?

Al

“Starwood 23.3K:25K via Marriott” I’m not clear as to how you arrive at this amount. Is the transfer from Starwood or Marriott and how do you arrive at 23.3?

Shimon

I had about 350K Qantas miles for flights taken mid 2012 and it expired at the end of 2013 without any warning. I have spend hours on the phone with Qantas back then trying to re-instate my point but without results.

Does anyone think that I can still re-activate it by crediting car rentals to the Qantas account?

zow

Dan, awesome post. The guide is better than ever.
As long as you’re asking for “mistakes,” the only think I would suggest would be to change the column header to Airline/Hotel, or add a second column header mid-table for Hotels. Other than that, it’s terrific. Thanks as always.

PM

@Dan thank you for the post!
Its time to update the Ultimate Milage Guide to Israel 🙂 !

Morris

You should Accor transfers 1:1 for Iberia and Qantas (3000:3000 for Iberia, 2000:2000 for Qantas).

David

What a great posting; Thank You very much. What I need need is a post that updates periodically on category spending. Groceries and utilities seem to be spending that only gets 1 point for $1 usually.

Jack out of the box

How long do Starpoints last?

Jack out of the box

Sorry, I found where you wrote it Dan. My error was that I though the entire list was alphabetical.
Thanks for keeping us so well informed!

Abe

Citi thank you points expire even if u always use the card

Abe

Citi ThankYou points expire no matter how much u use the card they tell me it will expire

frumJew777

@dan
when something expires after 36 months regardless of activity (ELAL), so how does that work?
Do all my miles expire from the first day the first mile in the account is earned, or is it that each transaction a mile was earned has a 36 month timer on it which individually expires.

Morris

Each point expires 3 years from the day earned (i.e. FIFO, first in first out).

me

so for AF miles if i dont fly, i can’t do anything .. (like transfer from AMEX)

🙁

David

@dan
I had 70 k united miles expire about two months ago
I stayed in the the summer at the JW Marriott for a week this past summer
Is there any way that that stay could reinstate my miles
Thanks

Eliezer

Where can i find on United ans BA’s websites my expiration date?

g

does it help to extend ua with chase transfers?

mee

Is there anything to do for Hertz points expiring?

Sam

I lost 60k IHG points as they expired due to inactivity. Tried calling them, connect on Twitter. No luck! What else should I have tried?

Theresa

Is it possible to transfer airline points (like Jetblue or Delta) to Marriott points? It seems like it only goes the other way, but I hope not. Thanks!

Oscar

Hi Dan, I tried the trick for my expired aa miles, with doing the car rentals points, called the rental (avis) and (alamo), and niether of them worked, nothing was posted to my account and no activity, what am I missing?

Tia!

Al

What does this mean from my BA Avios account?

“Points Reset for New Membership Year -140”

I had activity in the preceding 36 mos. Thanks

chaim

Can southwest points be reinstated?

Ben Rbibo

how do I find availability on Air France? When I check expert flyer it states business and first is only for elites?

tassojunior

You don’t have Wyndham which is a weird and strict one.

Rental car ones are also tough.

Ben

Thanks Dan for a very helpful post. 2 comments:
– Aegan Miles & Bonus points do no expire, maybe a change of rules recently.
– SAS Eurobonus is missing. AFAIK points do expire after the 4th year after sign-up date has elapsed. So if you signed up the 1st April 2018, your points collected until March 2019 will expire on the 31st March 2023 and so on.

Mark

@dan
I had 42k united miles expire feb 1 2016 (2 years & 2 months).
Is there any way to get reinstated?

JeffPO

You list Frontier as one of the MagsForMiles partners, which is correct, but using miles does not extend you expiration with them (your chart notes correctly you must earn miles every 6 months – a very short expiration period.). I’ve signed up with e-Rewards Opinion panel and so long as I have earned $25 with them, I can use that every 6 months to buy 500 Frontier miles to keep them active.

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