Take Advantage Of Fantastic Qantas Values For El Al Travel; Comparison Chart For Redeeming El Al Vs. Qantas Points With A 20% Or 44% Transfer Bonus!

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Update: Thanks to the 20% and 44% bonuses for AMEX transfers to Qantas, I’ve updated the comparison chart below to include points required based on no bonus, a 20% bonus, and a 44% bonus. If you are targeted, you may even get another 15-30% bonus!

Having problems linking your AMEX account to Qantas? If you have a 7 digit Qantas mileage number, try adding 000 before your mileage number to make it into a 10 digit mileage number.


Originally posted on 5/31:

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Earlier today we broke the news about AMEX points instantly transferring to Qantas at a 1:1 ratio.

You’ll want to read that post for more information about what you need to do today in order to get targeted for even more points on future transfers!

This new transfer option is great news for travel to Israel as Qantas has a fantastic award chart for travel on El Al, even if you don’t take advantage of any transfer bonuses.

For a long time, the best way to book award travel on El Al was with American miles. That relationship crumbled 4 years ago during the USAirways merger.

Luckily, Qantas added the ability to redeem points on their website for El Al flights last year.

That’s good because El Al does have decent award availability to Israel, but their Matmid frequent flyer program is expensive to use.

Personally I start searching for El Al award space on their own website, which has a calendar view. You will need a Matmid account in order to search for award space.

You can also search for El Al award space using Expert Flyer.

When you find award space in your desired cabin you can often save points and money by booking with Qantas.

To book with Qantas, just login on Qantas.com and select “Use points – Classic Flight Rewards only.

You can use this link to search for award flights.

Searching for JFK will include Newark in the results:

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Best of all though, Qantas doesn’t charge any fuel surcharges on El Al flights:"

Here is the Qantas award chart:

 

Sample destinations to/from Tel Aviv:

  • Zone 1: Larnaca
  • Zone 2: Athens, Sofia
  • Zone 3: London, Madrid, Moscow, Paris, Venice, Warsaw, Zurich
  • Zone 4: Mumbai
  • Zone 5: Bangkok, Beijing, Johannesburg
  • Zone 6: Boston, Hong Kong, JFK, Newark, Toronto, Tokyo
  • Zone 7: Chicago, Miami
  • Zone 8: Los Angeles, San Francisco

How do Qantas point requirements compare to El Al?

  • El Al Matmid points are hard to compare, so for simplicity sake, I’ll multiply their requirements by 50 to convert it into a number that is easily comparable with regular airline miles. You can transfer 50 AMEX points into 1 El Al point, so that ratio will make sense for a comparison.
  • El Al awards have fuel surcharges, so those and taxes are listed in the chart below. Qantas awards only have government taxes and are not listed in the chart below.
  • The El Al rates in the chart below are for Executive members. A transfer of just 5,000 AMEX points from the US AMEX Membership Rewards program to El Al’s Matmid program will earn El Al executive status for a year. Points transfer instantly from AMEX to El Al, though it can take up to a day after the transfer for the executive status to take effect on your El Al Matmid account.
  • Not all routes offer a premium economy option, so those have been excluded from the chart below.
  • Qantas points will never expire as long as you have any account activity every 18 months. El Al points expire after 36 months and they can’t be extended with activity.
  • Qantas.com isn’t able to book flights between Miami and Tel Aviv, you’ll need to call for these or use Matmid points for those.
  • Note that Qantas.com won’t let you search for same day flights, though you may have better luck over the phone. Otherwise you’ll want to use Matmid points for same day flights.
  • You can change a Qantas award for a fee of 5K points or cancel a Qantas award for a fee of 6K points. El Al charges between $60-$150 for award changes and cancellations.
  • Qantas only allows you to book award travel for eligible family members. You can add other people as an additional user on your AMEX card and transfer points to their Qantas account.
  • If you stack a bank transfer bonus to Qantas or a targeted Qantas transfer offer you can save even more. Last time, you were able to stack Citi’s 25% bonus together with Qantas 40% repeat transfer bonus! That means significant savings off of the numbers in the chart below.
  • You will need to round-up to their nearest 500 points for AMEX transfers to Qantas.
  • The chart below includes rates for round-trip travel, though both programs allow for one-way travel at half of the round-trip rate.
Flying between Tel Aviv and:AMEX/Citi points transferred to Qantas at a 1:1 ratio for a round-trip on El Al::::::::::::::AMEX points transferred to Qantas with a 20% bonus for a round-trip on El Al:::::::::::::::::::::AMEX points transferred to Qantas with a 44% bonus for a round-trip on El Al:::::::::::::::::::::AMEX points transferred to El Al points for a round-trip for Executives on El Al, with fuel surcharges:::::::::::::::
NYC winter84K Economy
126K Premium
156K Business
70K Economy
105K Premium
130K Business
58,333 Economy
87.5K Premium
108,333 Business
80K+$300 Economy
140K+$200 Premium
255K+$350 Business
NYC summer84K Economy
126K Premium
156K Business
70K Economy
105K Premium
130K Business
58,333 Economy
87.5K Premium
108,333 Business
88K+$350 Economy
180K+$200 Premium
255K+$350 Business
Boston winter84K Economy
156K Business
70K Economy
130K Business
58,333 Economy
108,333 Business
60K+$350 Economy
212.5K+$300 Business
Boston summer84K Economy
156K Business
70K Economy
130K Business
58,333 Economy
108,333 Business
88K+$300 Economy
212.5K+$300 Business
Chicago winter100K Economy
150K Premium
184K Business
83,333 Economy
125K Premium
153,333 Business
69,444 Economy
104,166 Premium
127,777 Business
80K+$350 Economy
184K+$300 Premium
297.5K+$350 Business
Chicago summer100K Economy
150K Premium
184K Business
83,333 Economy
125K Premium
153,333 Business
69,444 Economy
104,166 Premium
127,777 Business
88K+$350 Economy
200K+$300 Premium
297.5K+$350 Business
Toronto winter84K Economy
126K Premium
156K Business
70K Economy
105K Premium
130K Business
58,333 Economy
87.5K Premium
108,333 Business
80K+$270 Economy
140K+$270 Premium
178.5K+$320 Business
Toronto summer84K Economy
126K Premium
156K Business
70K Economy
105K Premium
130K Business
58,333 Economy
87.5K Premium
108,333 Business
88K+$270 Economy
140K+$170 Premium
178.5K+$320 Business
Miami winter100K Economy
150K Premium
184K Business
83,333 Economy
125K Premium
153,333 Business
69,444 Economy
104,166 Premium
127,777 Business
80K+$350 Economy
184K+$300 Premium
297.5K+$350 Business
Miami summer100K Economy
150K Premium
184K Business
83,333 Economy
125K Premium
153,333 Business
69,444 Economy
104,166 Premium
127,777 Business
88K+$350 Economy
200K+$300 Premium
297.5K+$350 Business
Los Angeles winter112K Economy
168K Premium
208K Business
93,333 Economy
140K Premium
173,333 Business
77,777 Economy
116,666 Premium
144,444 Business
100K+$300 Economy
184K+$350 Premium
297.5K+$450 Business
Los Angeles summer112K Economy
168K Premium
208K Business
93,333 Economy
140K Premium
173,333 Business
77,777 Economy
116,666 Premium
144,444 Business
112K+$350 Economy
220K+$300 Premium
297.5K+$450 Business
San Francisco winter112K Economy
168K Premium
208K Business
93,333 Economy
140K Premium
173,333 Business
77,777 Economy
116,666 Premium
144,444 Business
100K+$300 Economy
184K+$350 Premium
297.5K+$450 Business
San Francisco summer112K Economy
168K Premium
208K Business
93,333 Economy
140K Premium
173,333 Business
77,777 Economy
116,666 Premium
144,444 Business
112K+$350 Economy
200K+$300 Premium
297.5K+$450 Business
London winter40K Economy
60K Premium
76K Business
33,333 Economy
50K Premium
63,333 Business
27,777 Economy
41,666 Premium
52,777 Business
32K+$270 Economy
48K+$425 Premium
93.5K+$455 Business
London summer40K Economy
60K Premium
76K Business
33,333 Economy
50K Premium
63,333 Business
27,777 Economy
41,666 Premium
52,777 Business
40K+$270 Economy
70K+$310 Premium
93.5K+$455 Business
Johannesburg winter70K Economy
130K Business
58,333 Economy
108,333 Business
48,611 Economy
90,277 Business
60K+$260 Economy
178.5K+$160 Business
Johannesburg summer70K Economy
130K Business
58,333 Economy
108,333 Business
48,611 Economy
90,277 Business
70K+$260 Economy
178.5K+$160 Business
Hong Kong winter84K Economy
126K Premium
156K Business
70K Economy
105K Premium
130K Business
58,333 Economy
87.5K Premium
108,333 Business
88K+$210 Economy
140K+$210 Premium
212.5K+$210 Business
Hong Kong summer84K Economy
126K Premium
156K Business
70K Economy
105K Premium
130K Business
58,333 Economy
87.5K Premium
108,333 Business
70K+$330 Economy
180K+$180 Premium
212.5K+$330 Business
Bangkok winter70K Economy
105K Premium
130K Business
58,333 Economy
87.5K Premium
108,333 Business
48,611 Economy
72,916 Premium
90,277 Business
60K+$265 Economy
140K+$315 Premium
212.5K+$285 Business
Bangkok summer70K Economy
105K Premium
130K Business
58,333 Economy
87.5K Premium
108,333 Business
48,611 Economy
72,916 Premium
90,277 Business
70K+$315 Economy
180K+$180 Premium
212.5K+$285 Business

If you’re on a paid El Al flight you can also credit that flight to airlines like Alaska (starting 7/1) or Qantas to earn valuable points for your flight. Just give El Al your Alaska or Qantas mileage number.

Do you use El Al or Qantas points for travel to Israel?

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  • You can transfer AMEX points into Matmid points at a 50:1 ratio. 
  • You can transfer AMEX Or Citi points to Qantas at a 1:1 ratio, Barclays points at a 1.4:1 ratio, Capital One points at a 2:1.5 ratio, or Marriott points to Qantas at a 60K:25K ratio.

AMEX cards with transferable Membership Rewards points to El Al or Qantas include:

  • AMEX Blue Business Plus
  • AMEX Platinum Business
    • $595 annual fee, up to 75K points welcome bonus, earn 1.5 points per dollar on $5K+ transactions, $200 in annual airline fee credits, $200 in annual Dell credits, 1 year WeWork Global Office Space, Marriott and Hilton Gold status, 35% points rebate on paid airfare redemptions, Global Entry/Pre-check, AMEX Global lounge collection access.
    • For rates and fees of the AMEX Platinum Business Card, please visit here.
  • AMEX Gold Business Card
    • $295 annual fee, 35K points welcome bonus, 1 year G Suite Basic for 3 users and up to 1 year of ZipRecruiter Standard, earn up to 4 points per dollar.
    • For rates and fees of the AMEX Blue Business Plus Card, please visit here.
  • AMEX Gold Consumer Card
    • $250 annual fee, 54K points welcome bonus, $100 in annual airline fee credits, earn up to 4 points per dollar.
  • AMEX Platinum Consumer Card
    • $550 annual fee, up to 60K points welcome bonus, earn 5 points per dollar on airfare, $200 in annual airline fee credits, up to $200 in annual Uber credit, up to $100 in annual Saks credit, Marriott and Hilton Gold status, Global Entry/Pre-check, AMEX Global lounge collection access.
  • AMEX Everyday Preferred Consumer Card
    • $95 annual fee, up to 20K points welcome bonus, earn between 1.5-4.5 points per dollar everywhere with 30+ monthly transactions.
  • AMEX Everyday Consumer Card
    • No annual fee, up to 15K points welcome bonus, earn between 1.2-2.4 points per dollar everywhere with 20+ monthly transactions.

Barclays doesn’t currently offer any cards to new customers with transferable points. If you have a discontinued Arrival Premier card you can transfer points.

Capital One cards with transferable points to Qantas include:

Citi cards with transferable points to Qantas include:

  • Citi Premier offering 50,000 points for spending $4,000 in 3 months, 3 points per dollar on travel and gas, and 2 points per dollar on dining and entertainment. $95 annual fee waived for the first year.
  • Citi Prestige offering 50,000 points for spending $4,000 in 3 months, 5 points per dollar on airfare and dining, and 3 points per dollar on hotels. $495 annual fee.

Marriott cards with transferable points to Qantas include:

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52 Comments On "Take Advantage Of Fantastic Qantas Values For El Al Travel; Comparison Chart For Redeeming El Al Vs. Qantas Points With A 20% Or 44% Transfer Bonus!"

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Dav

Basically same value as united points

Gingy

Is it possible to book a flight on Fiji airways with Qantas points?

Joe

Not with a Jedi

Gingy

What is a Jedi?

dave

can you transfer miles/points from barclays arrival plus to Qantas 1:1 ratio?

David

What about adding an infant using Qantas points to book an El Al. How would that work? Would I book with Qantas or El Al? Thanks Dan.

Dav

Dan , assuming you have the option to book to tlv united busniess vs elal busniess which one would you go with ?

Traveler 718

Dan I’m trying to sign up for a Matmid account to be able to check availability, but I keep getting an error message that your embedded campaign code is invalid. When I try with no campaign code, they’re charging me $25 to sign up for an account. Please advise.

Avrum

Sign up using the American website (I think elal.com vs elal.co.il)

Elal

didn’t the El Al fuel charges go up in business to New York City to 550?

Jo

Anyone know why flight from Athens to NY on Qantas came with a $300 surchage?

yankel

i was charged 29.60 for JFK-TLV on QF

qfey

For flights from LHR to TLV are there still no surcharges?

Alon

Which business card with no forex fees is best for general spending in Israel?

m

I use the platinum business. If you are getting a card just for going to Israel then you might want to get the blue for business card, unless you want specific benefits like the $300 travel credit (but if that is the only reason, then don’t get it. The platinum charges nearly $600 a year! And if you are not taking advantage of most of the benefits,its not worth it)

Aryeh Sonnenberg

Chase Ink Unlimited has an 80K bonus, no foreign charge.

weiss

preffered

jonthan

is it possible to book with qantas business with points upgrade?
when i try to make a search from JFK to TLV using money it doest give me the option for TLV. only when i switch to points only.

Jojo

Is there direct flight to Israel from jfk or. Ewr with quantas points flying with Elal? Tried searching today and wouldn’t work

Eli

I just booked Lap Infant with my El Al Tickets via qantas – You can add the Lap Infant with the initial search (No need to call to add) and only charged minimal tax.

Jojo

Direct flight? It doesn’t seem to work for me when I check from ewr to tlv

Chaim

As Dan said, “Searching for JFK will include Newark in the results:”

lillian

Where is the “Use points – Classic Flight Rewards only.” on Qantas site?

Dy

Qantas doesn’t recognize Tel Aviv airport as an option when I am looking for flights.

buyer

How much is YQ for JFK-TLV JFK?
Is a OW half of that or, more?

JoeD

@dan you wrote “Qantas points will never expire as long as you have any account activity every 18 months” , But does that include transferring points to Quantas? I read somewhere else that they do not consider transferring points account activity.

Glushtygiz

Is it still huca with Mia tlv

Ari

Hidden city hack using award points? I’m trying to book an Aeroplan award flight JFK-LIS-JFK which shows no avail; but when searching multi-city, results DO show avail on TAP air, but with stopovers in LHR (JFK-LIS-LHR, LHR-LIS-JFK) If I get off the plane in LIS (hidden city) on my outbound, will they cancel the award return making my LIS-JFK return dead?

just me

can you do a all about post on amex cards kind of like you did for chase

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