You Can Now Redeem Qantas Points Online For El Al Travel Between North America And Tel Aviv Without Fuel Surcharges!

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In October I wrote about the long and convoluted process to redeem Qantas points for travel on El Al between North America and Tel Aviv.

As of today that is no longer required. You can now book awards for all El Al flights on Qantas.com. Just login and select “Use points – Classic Flight Rewards only.

 

There are no fuel surcharges:

 

Here is the Qantas award chart:

Sample destinations to/from Tel Aviv:

  • Zone 1: Larnaca
  • Zone 2: Athens, Sofia
  • Zone 3: London, Madrid, Moscow, Paris, Venice, Warsaw, Zurich
  • Zone 4: Mumbai
  • Zone 5: Bangkok, Beijing, Johannesburg
  • Zone 6: Boston, Hong Kong, JFK, Newark, Toronto
  • Zone 7: Miami
  • Zone 8: Los Angeles, San Francisco

How does that stack up with El Al Matmid rates?

First of all, El Al Matmid adds fuel surcharges that can add up to $150 each way. Qantas doesn’t charge any fuel surcharges for travel on El Al.

Second of all, Qantas can’t book El Al premium economy or first class awards.

It’s also worth noting that Qantas.com won’t let you search for same day flights, though you may have better luck over the phone.

As you can see from this post, you can only transfer Citi ThankYou points, Starpoints, or Marriott points to Qantas. Those points can be earned from AMEX Starwood, Chase Marriott, and Citi Prestige and Premier cards.

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El Al rates below are for Executive members. A transfer of just 5,000 AMEX points from the US AMEX Membership Rewards program to El Al’s Matmid program will earn you executive status for a year. Points transfer instantly from AMEX to El Al, though it takes about a day after the transfer for the executive status to take effect on your El Al Matmid account. Note that transferred points expire after 36 months and can’t be extended with activity.

Sample comparison of El Al Matmid Executive point requirements vs Qantas points requirements:

  • A one-way coach ticket from London to Tel Aviv is 350 Matmid points (17.5K AMEX) in the winter and 400 Matmid points (20K AMEX) in the summer, plus fuel surcharges. With Qantas it’s 20K points year-round and there are no fuel surcharges.
  • A one-way business class ticket from London to Tel Aviv is 950 Matmid points (47.5K AMEX), plus fuel surcharges. With Qantas it’s 38K points and there are no fuel surcharges.
  • A one-way coach ticket from Bangkok to Tel Aviv is 900 Matmid points (45K AMEX), plus fuel surcharges. With Qantas it’s 35K points and there are no fuel surcharges.
  • A one-way business class ticket from Bangkok to Tel Aviv is 2K Matmid points (100K AMEX), plus fuel surcharges. With Qantas it’s 65K points and there are no fuel surcharges.
  • A one-way coach ticket from JFK to Tel Aviv is 700 Matmid points (35K AMEX) in the winter and 800 Matmid points (40K AMEX) in the summer, plus fuel surcharges. With Qantas it’s 42K points year-round and there are no fuel surcharges.
  • A one-way business class ticket from JFK to Tel Aviv is 2,250 Matmid points (112.5K AMEX), plus fuel surcharges. With Qantas it’s 78K points and there are no fuel surcharges.
  • A one-way coach ticket from Los Angeles to Tel Aviv is 900 Matmid points (45K AMEX) in the winter and 1,000 Matmid points (50K AMEX) in the summer, plus fuel surcharges. With Qantas it’s 56K points year-round and there are no fuel surcharges.
  • A one-way business class ticket from Los Angeles to Tel Aviv is 2,750 Matmid points (137.5K AMEX), plus fuel surcharges. With Qantas it’s 104K points and there are no fuel surcharges.

Will you use Qantas points for an El Al award?

HT: J-town, via DDF


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Yed

Great Post, Might start usinp my Citi CC’s again…
Thanks Dan! Keep it up.

Hmmm

Thanks great post!

Max

@Dan
Could I use it for travel between Montreal and NYC on AA without fuel charge?
Is this a better program then BA

@mike

Hey Dan,

Which airport in North America would you recommend flying out of with ElAL in regards to the downsizing of the planes on many routes.

dave

you can transfer on a 1:1 ratio all TY points or only if you have premier card and even if you have premier only those ty points earned through premier card?

Ben

Is this true?

shmuels2

Availability that shows on expert flyer MIA>TLV doesn’t show on Qantas’s search

r

MIA flights didn’t show up for me either on a number of dates where LY had X inventory

Pghtown

How long will it take to transfer/post SPG points into Qantas program? Will Qantas reserve and hold an award ticket on ElAl until the SPG points are transferred? If so, how do we do that? I want to transfer and use points ASAP and do not want to end up with unused Qantas points

Pghtown

And same question for transferring Marriott to Qantas please

MOSHE

Cant get TLV as a destination

me

what is your depart airport ?

mo

its not letting me select a return destination “We can’t find a matching location for ‘tlv'”- any way to get around it?

Jack out of the box

What is availability generally like between TLV and NYC using this method?

Morris

Looks great when I checked just now. Premium econ seems non-existent.

yandmk

“It’s also worth noting that Qantas.com won’t let you search for same day flights, though you may have better luck over the phone.”
El Al doesn’t either have the option of booking awards online less than 24 hours prior to departure. Must call to book those which come with a $50 “rushed-ticketing fee”.

David

What about transferring Amex Rewards to SPG and then to Marriott?
270k AMEX to 90K Starpoints transfer into 270K Marriot points, which transfers into 7 nights at a Marriott hotel and 85K Qantas points via a miles+nights transfer?

Judah

Why doesn’t it recognize “TLV” when searching for destination.

Bh12

What’s the cancelation policy on an award booking ?
Also any data regarding transfer times from typ ? Thanx

charles

Regarding last minute searches;
Just mentioning that I also had trouble with the ELAL call center booking the next flight for my wife when a parent suddenly passed away. They tried to steer me to another day. (There was space available.) When I mentioned that other airlines would be more helpful they HUNG UP. Despite clear records ELAL never apologized.

mf

terrible news all reward space will be gone.
in the past i have called them.

Bobby

Basically, 90k Starwood points transfers through Marriot, then to Qantas and you end up with 85k Qantas points and possibly 15k Starwood points back if you can redeem the 7 nights back to points. Isn’t it simpler to sell your Starwood points for $.015, get $1350 and buy a non stop for $1300 (summer flight to Israel) and pocket $50 rather than do all this?? I dont see the value – can someone enlighten me?

shmo

Whats the exchange amex-elal?

mf

I think 50 amex = 1 elal

Mike

Can you waitlist with Qantas on Elal flights ?
With Matmid points you can do that

EL AL

no chase UR? First need to create QF account to see availability? any other place to see LY availability? Wish had other options like UA, but w late motzoei shabbos and yom tov, only LY has 1 am. UA 11.30 too early. UA, AA – Can you try to offer 1 am flights? you will generate lots of biz!

Qantas

planning to fly elal. can earn 5700 quantas. when do they expire? no amex ppints, for one way need 42,000. what is the chance of accumilating 42,000 with 5700 RT EL AL Trips? anything else I can use EL AL points if I have no interest in LY FF Program?

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