Comparison Chart: Redeeming For El Al Flights With Qantas Points Versus El Al Matmid Points

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For a long time, the best way to book award travel on El Al was with American miles. That relationship crumbled 4 years ago during the USAirways merger.

Luckily, Qantas added the ability to redeem points on their website for El Al flights earlier this year.

That’s good because El Al does have decent award availability to Israel, but their Matmid frequent flyer program is expensive to use.

To book with Qantas, just login on Qantas.com and select “Use points – Classic Flight Rewards only.” Searching for JFK will include Newark in the results:

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Best of all though, Qantas doesn’t charge any fuel surcharges on El Al flights:"

You can transfer Citi ThankYou points to Qantas at a 1:1 ratio or you can transfer Marriott points to Qantas at a 60K:25K ratio.

You can earn Qantas points via the Citi Premier Card, which has a best ever 60K signup bonus for spending $4K within 3 months. It also offers 3 points per dollar on travel and gas plus 2 points per dollar on dining and entertainment. Plus its annual fee is waived for the first year and $95/year afterward:

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How does Qantas point requirements compare to El Al?

El Al Matmid points are hard to compare, so for simplicity sake, I’ll multiply their requirements by 50 to convert it into a number that is easily comparable with regular airline miles. You can transfer 50 AMEX points into 1 El Al point, so that ratio will make sense for a comparison.

Of course that doesn’t account for fuel surcharges that El Al adds onto their flights. Those are estimated in the chart below, though won’t always be exact.

The El Al rates in the chart below are for Executive members. A transfer of just 5,000 AMEX points from the US AMEX Membership Rewards program to El Al’s Matmid program will earn El Al executive status for a year. Points transfer instantly from AMEX to El Al, though it takes about a day after the transfer for the executive status to take effect on your El Al Matmid account.

El Al will devalue Matmid on 4/1/19, so I’ve included rates under the current program and the future program rates starting 4/1/19.

The chart below includes rates for round-trip travel, though both programs allow for one-way travel at half of the round-trip rate.

Not all routes offer a premium economy option, so those have been excluded from the chart below.

Flying between Tel Aviv and:Qantas points for a round-trip for all membersCurrent El Al points for a round-trip for Executives, multiplied by 50Future El Al points for a round-trip for Executives, multiplied by 50 
NYC in the winter84K Economy
126K Premium
156K Business
70K+$350 Economy
110K+$350 Premium
225K+$350 Business
88K+$400 Economy
140K+$400 Premium
255K+$450 Business
NYC in the summer84K Economy
126K Premium
156K Business
80K+$350 Economy
130K+$350 Premium
225K+$350 Business
104K+$400 Economy
180K+$400 Premium
255K+$450 Business
Boston in the winter84K Economy
156K Business
70K+$350 Economy
200K+$350 Business
64K+$400 Economy
212.5K+$450 Business
Boston in the summer84K Economy
156K Business
80K+$350 Economy
200K+$350 Business
104K+$400 Economy
212.5K+$450 Business
Toronto in the winter84K Economy
126K Premium
156K Business
70K+$170 Economy
105K+$170 Premium
200K+$170 Business
88K+$270 Economy
140K+$270 Premium
178.5K+$320 Business
Toronto in the summer84K Economy
126K Premium
156K Business
80K+$170 Economy
125K+$170 Premium
200K+$170 Business
104K+$270 Economy
180K+$270 Premium
178.5K+$320 Business
Miami in the winter100K Economy
150K Premium
184K Business
80K+$350 Economy
142.5K+$350 Premium
260K+$350 Business
88K+$400 Economy
184K+$400 Premium
297.5K+$450 Business
Miami in the summer100K Economy
150K Premium
184K Business
95K+$350 Economy
172.5K+$350 Premium
260K+$350 Business
104K+$400 Economy
200K+$350 Premium
297.5K+$450 Business
Los Angeles in the winter112K Economy
168K Premium
208K Business
90K+$350 Economy
160K+$350 Premium
275K+$350 Business
112K+$400 Economy
184K+$400 Premium
297.5K+$550 Business
Los Angeles in the summer112K Economy
168K Premium
208K Business
100K+$350 Economy
180K+$350 Premium
275K+$350 Business
128K+$400 Economy
220K+$400 Premium
297.5K+$550 Business
London in the winter40K Economy
60K Premium
76K Business
35K+$255 Economy
50K+$255 Premium
95K+$255 Business
32K+$300 Economy
56K+$300 Premium
93.5K+$300 Business
London in the summer40K Economy
60K Premium
76K Business
40K+$255 Economy
50K+$255 Premium
95K+$255 Business
40K+$300 Economy
72K+$300 Premium
93.5K+$300 Business
Johannesburg in the winter70K Economy
130K Business
70K+$320 Economy
150K+$320 Business
64K+$370 Economy
178.5K+$370 Business
Johannesburg in the summer70K Economy
130K Business
70K+$320 Economy
150K+$320 Business
80K+$370 Economy
178.5K+$370 Business
Hong Kong in the winter84K Economy
126K Premium
156K Business
90K+$160 Economy
105K+$160 Premium
230K+$160 Business
88K+$210 Economy
140K+$210 Premium
212.5K+$210 Business
Hong Kong in the summer84K Economy
126K Premium
156K Business
90K+$160 Economy
120K+$160 Premium
230K+$160 Business
80K+$210 Economy
180K+$210 Premium
212.5K+$210 Business
Bangkok in the winter70K Economy
130K Business
90K+$180 Economy
200K+$180 Business
88K+$230 Economy
212.5K+$230 Business
Bangkok in the summer70K Economy
130K Business
90K+$180 Economy
200K+$180 Business
80K+$230 Economy
212.5K+$230 Business

Do you use El Al or Qantas points for travel to Israel?


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54 Comments On "Comparison Chart: Redeeming For El Al Flights With Qantas Points Versus El Al Matmid Points"

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Sruly

Can you use Quanta for first class on Elal?

moshe

Dont waist your points on that

Wijnstokken

This assumes you prefer El Al.
United and AA both seem to have direct flights for 80k

el

can i credit miles flown on paid elal flight to qantas?

Pad18

As always, thanks !
Now only need to figure out the million dollar question, how to earn Citi point fast ! 😉

Sruly

Elal has a promo now where it’s 72500 for a non executive member from NYC.

Pad18

dont forget the +$350 …

john

J class? and what points?

Gorge

What about flights to Paris?

Gorge

How come the chart doesn’t have CDG TLV? Do thy not offer awards on that flight?

ploni3

Hmmm…I see a special fare of 700 Matmid points +$220CAD from YYZ for random Dec. dates.
Using the 50X calculation shouldn’t that be 35,000?

This may

Hmm

The table does not take into account the many times that Elal is offering promotional rates during off peak seasons. For exapmle, Toronto and Boston are half price now, 35k or 700 Matmid roundtrip.

Dav

Dan what is the best way to redeem business class from NYC to London non stop without real fuel charges ?

Opinion

United and AA

john

Can someone point me to where on the site (cant find it) they have the promo’s listed?

Dany

Hi dan if im understanding correctly is the bottom line executive status is olny worth for economy and premium economy and the executive status olny hurts you for business according to your chart
Pls correct me if I’m wrong tnx

netlevy

84K miles on Qantas fro Economy RT is still a lot to my opinion
i value points to be at least 1.2 cents/mile so that’s at least a $1000 RT …
not such a great value honestly

Ron

Dan: ״El Al does have good award availability to Israel״??? Misinformation!
Almost nothing on J For the next few months…

lindnuck

Thanks for this, Dan. I’m trying to redeem a classic award and I have enough Marriott points. But I’m seeing online that it takes six days (!) for the transfer to go through. Any tips to avoid transferring and then losing the availability???

bmw

qantas dont book miami tlv online and making a very hard time over the phone to book it. they say that officially the route is blocked

zow

Just applied and got approved for the Citi Premier (with DD link!). Thanks Dan.

zow

And just did the same for DW, and she was approved. We are very happy, Dan. Thank you very much. What a great way to celebrate Rosh Chodesh Marcheshvan.

Ness

Wanna use ur link… just fyi, the RED part isn’t linked to your offer. I thought it normally is.

aa

Thanks Dan for the great post, as usually.

mf

I have spoken to qantas reps many times
A few qantas reps told me that you can’t book the miami-tlv route using qantas points.
how can you book el al first if your lucky qantas doesn’t have access to it?

Chaim

Any way to filter the search to only show direct (Elal)flights?

Mike

What are the change or cancellation fees for Qantas/Elal awards?

to dan

EL AL as a rule doesn’t like to be undercut by ANY type of deal or “discount”.They keep an eye on dansdeals posts and other websites for any glitches more than anyone else. Keeping the Qantas discounted award value quiet would have been a good idea. El Al flights are one of the only airlines that Qantas doesn’t charge mega fuel charges for. I won’t be surprised if Qantas will be forced by EL AL to raises fuel charges like JAL did with Emirates.

Chaim

Tlv – yyz cheaper summer time in business than premium???!!!

noach

yes

for 787 biz its AWESOME

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