Wednesday, November 16th, 2011, 1:00 am
Update 11/17: BA still hasn’t released a chart yet, but below is the Iberia Avios redemption chart which appears to exactly mirror the BA redemption numbers. (If you can find an exception please post a comment!)
Blue class is the price for a coach redemption.
Full Economy is the price for a premium economy redemption.
Business class is the price for a business class redemption and is always double the coach rate.
First Class (not shown on the chart below) is triple the coach rate.
With the Great Circle Mapper you can check distances between city pairs.
For example from Cleveland to Chicago is 315 flown miles, therefore it costs 4,500 Avios each way in coach.
Chicago to Los Angeles is 1,745 flown miles, therefore it costs 10,000 Avios each way in coach.
Want to fly from Cleveland to Los Angeles on AA via Chicago? Just add up the segment costs (10K+4.5K) and you can see that the cost will be 14,500 Avios each way in coach.
The new BA partner award chart is very similar to LAN in that each flight segment has its own price based on the flight distance. A connecting flight will cost more than a nonstop flight as you must pay separately for each segment. There are no longer any free stopovers on partner awards as you pay for each leg flown, but you are free to book each leg separately and stopover in that city as long as you want and that won’t cost you any more miles.
The main difference between BA and LAN besides nuances in their distance based pricing is that LAN never charges fuel surcharges, while BA does for most airlines, while BA allows one-way travel but LAN does not.
Additionally Starpoints transfer to LAN at a 20K:50K ratio and to BA at the standard 20:25K ratio, but LAN rates are generally slightly higher than BA, with some exceptions. Membership Rewards and Ultimate Rewards transfer instantly to BA but do not transfer to LAN.
Both programs are best suited for short-haul flights that are typically expensive to buy with cash or with miles on most airlines, because they use distance-based pricing instead of region-based pricing.
In all, Avios is a true mixed bag. There are some real bargains now and some outrageous rip-offs. If you live in a city with many OneWorld nonstop flights (NYC, Chicago, Dallas, Los Angeles, Miami, etc.) you may find that you love some of the changes. Otherwise you may be hating them.
The phone booking fee has gone up from $20 to $25. Date changes made online have gone from being free to $40. Date changes made over the phone have gone down from $70 to $65. Cancelling a ticket and redepositing the miles used to be $50 online and $70 by phone but will now be $40 online and $65 by phone.
If you have earned at least 1 mile in the past year then you also also eligible to make redemptions within continental Europe without paying fuel surcharges.
Here is some sample Avios pricing.
All pricing are for one-way flights in coach!
Business class remains double the price of coach and first class remains triple the price of coach. This exacerbates the pain for an itinerary like from JFK to Singapore or Phuket in business or first on Cathay Pacific. It used to 50,000 miles in business or 75,000 miles in first each way but now will cost 90,000 miles in business or 135,000 miles in first each way.
Many itineraries are now way cheaper than before:
Miami-Cancun, was 17,500 miles, now 4,500 miles.
Miami-Grand Cayman, was 17,500 miles, now 4,500 miles.
Miami-Key West, was 12,500 miles, now 4,500 miles.
Miami-Montego Bay, was 17,500 miles, now 4,500 miles.
Miami-Nassau, Bahamas, was 17,500 miles, now 4,500 miles.
Miami-Turks & Caicos, was 17,500 miles, now 4,500 miles.
NYC-Cleveland, was 12,500 miles, now 4,500 miles.
NYC-Montreal, was 12,500 miles, now 4,500 miles.
NYC-Toronto, was 12,500 miles, now 4,500 miles.
Melbourne-Sydney, was 12,500 miles, now 4,500 miles.
Los-Angeles-Las Vegas, was 12,500 miles, now 4,500 miles.
Los-Angeles-Cabo San Lucas, was 17,500 miles, now 7,500 miles.
NYC-Chicago, was 12,500 miles, now 7,500 miles.
NYC-Miami, was 12,500 miles, now 7,500 miles.
Cleveland-Miami, was 12,500 miles, now 7,500 miles.
Chicago-Los Angeles, was 12,500 miles, now 10,000 miles.
Los Angeles-Hawaii (HNL/KOA/LIH/OGG), was 17,500, now 12,500 miles.
NYC-Costa Rica, was 17,500 miles, now 12,500 miles.
Easter Island-Papeete, Tahiti, was 37,500 miles, now 12,500 miles.
NYC-London, was 25,000 miles, now 20,000 miles.
Others remain the same:
NYC-Los Angeles, was 12,500 miles, now 12,500 miles.
Miami-Los Angeles, was 12,500 miles, now 12,500 miles.
NYC-Tel Aviv, via London, was 32,500 miles, now 32,500 miles.
While others get worse:
London-Tel Aviv, was 10,000 miles, now 12,500 miles.
NYC-Buenos Aires, was 20,000 miles, now 25,000 miles.
NYC-Hong Kong, was 25,000 miles, now 35,000 miles.
Connecting flights generally get worse across the board:
Cleveland-Los Angeles, via Chicago, was 12,500 miles, now 14,500 miles.
Tel Aviv-Paris, via London, was 10,000 miles, now 17,000 miles.
Cleveland-Los Angeles, via Dallas, was 12,500 miles, now 17,500 miles.
NYC-Los Angeles via Dallas, was 12,500 miles, now 20,000 miles.
NYC-Honolulu, via Los Angeles, was 17,500 miles, now 25,000 miles..
NYC-Buenos Aires, via Miami, was 20,000 miles, now 32,500 miles
NYC-Honolulu, via Dallas, was 17,500 miles, now 30,000 miles.
NYC-Honolulu, via Chicago, was 17,500 miles, now 32,500 miles.
Los Angeles-Buenos Aires, via Dallas, was 20,000 miles, now 35,000 miles
Los Angeles-Buenos Aires, via Miami, was 20,000 miles, now 37,500 miles
NYC-Easter Island, via Santiago, was 20,000 miles, now 37,500 miles.
NYC-Singapore, via Hong Kong was 25,000 miles, now 45,000 miles.