Emirates Adding a 2nd Nonstop From NYC To Europe; Another Good Use Of Starpoints To Israel

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Update: Award availability for this flight has been loaded and is wide open for travel in March, April, and May.

You can search for award space on alaskaair.com or emirates.com

Alaska charges 95K miles in coach, 210K miles in business, or 360K miles in first class round-trip between NYC and Athens or Milan:

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However you can book the trip with JAL miles for just 40K miles in coach, 65K miles in business, or 100K miles in first class round-trip.

Taxes and fees on a round-trip should be about $95 with Alaska miles or $70 with JAL miles.

You can transfer Starpoints to JAL at a 20K:25K ratio and then call JAL to book at 800-525-3663 as it can’t be booked online with JAL miles.


Originally posted on 1/23:

Related posts:
-The Ultimate Israel Mileage Award Chart
-Getting To Israel Using Starwood Starpoints, 2016 Edition
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Emirates currently flies a daily A380 nonstop between JFK and Milan.

Effective 3/12 they will also fly a daily 777 nonstop between Newark and Athens.

Both flights offer coach, business, and first class, though the 777 has 7 across seating in business class, has no business/first class bar, and doesn’t offer first class showers like the A380 offers.

Partner award inventory hasn’t been loaded for the Athens flight, but for when it does, JAL has the best award chart for Emirates flights. They don’t charge a fuel surcharge for Emirates flights.

A round-trip on either route or an open-jaw (for example departing JFK-Milan and returning Athens-Newark) costs 40K JAL miles in coach, 65K in business, or 100K in first class, round-trip.

The Starwood Consumer AMEX and the Starwood Business AMEX have the ability to earn points that are transferable to dozens of airlines at a 20K:25K ratio, effectively 1.25 miles per dollar spent everywhere.

Thanks to the 25% bonus for transferring Starpoints to JAL it’s effectively 32K Starpoints in coach, 52K Starpoints in business class, or 80K Starpoints in first class, round-trip.

From Athens it’s a sub-2 hour flight to Israel on Star Alliance member Aegean or on El Al. In May SkyTeam member Aliatalia will also fly nonstop between Athens and Tel Aviv.

Round-trips from Athens to Tel Aviv start at just $117:

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From Milan you can fly on EasyJet or El Al nonstop to Tel Aviv.

HT: Chapshnell, via DDF

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45 Comments On "Emirates Adding a 2nd Nonstop From NYC To Europe; Another Good Use Of Starpoints To Israel"

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shauly

is emirates safe to fly for a yid ?

Dan

@shauly:
Yes.

High end hobo

It’s worth noting EK J on the 777 isn’t very good

ron

How soon will they start displaying flights to Athens for booking?

How can I transfer Starpoints to JAL at 32k points to get the Emirates flight to Athens?

Anonymous

If I use mileage for the Athens-Newark flight and buy a TLV-athens, will I need to recheck my luggage in Athens, or can I check them in TLV to Newark?

FlyFirst

Is their 777 anything excited? anything better than United?

Anonymous

Does JAL charge fuel surcharge for Emirates?

Anonymous

@shauly: Safe maybe — but creepy

Nick

Experts please clarify for Novice, how to actualize what Dan is saying.
say I have 60 SPG which is worth 1.25 meaning 75k points.
what is my next step
assume I want to fly emirates as mentioned above using these points.
what must I do?
do I open an account with Japan then call amex and have them transfer 75 k points into my Japan account?
if yes whats next – how do I get them to emirates?
and finally from Athens how do I get to Israel do I buy a cash ticket or is there a point usage that gets me to Israel via an entirely different award redemption.

finally having reviewed the chart seems flying blue can come out the cheapest at times- how would that work best with the above point count –

finally finally- can amex platinum points be converted to amex spg points on the mex side or is it entirely separate.
I have 200k of those points.

tyvm

M

How much is YQ?

Avi

Are they offering kosher meals on these flights?

Dan

@High end hobo:
Indeed.

@ron:
Give it a few days for partner awards to be added.

The effective rates I wrote are with the 25% bonus, but you need to transfer Starpoints in increments of 20K in order to get the 25% bonus.

@Anonymous:
You will likely need to recheck.

@FlyFirst:
Not better than United, but much better availability.

@Anonymous:
No fuel surcharges with JAL.

@Anonymous:
Plenty of frum people have flown Emirates with no issues.

@Nick:
You’ll need to call JAL to book awards. You can do that now for JFK-Milan, but partner award seats haven’t yet been added for JFK-Athens.

After confirming award space you can transfer the points to JAL.

From Athens you can buy a ticket or use dozens of different kinds of points.

AMEX points convert to SPG at a dreadful 3:1 ratio.

@M:
$0 with JAL.

@Avi:
Yes.

Lubaby

Keep in mind that SPG points can take up to a week to transfer to JAL.

Anonymous

@Dan: Thanks Dan

I understand that transfers need to be done in increments of 20k. But how do I get the 20k to convert to 32k JAL? Is there an extra bonus?

Also, does Emirates offer the Athens flight on points with any value? or better of checking with JAL.

Hanan

I need a good price to las vegas
March 18 to 19 return at night

cook

Whatever happened to Emirates’ planned nonstop between NY and Budapest?

Help

@Anonymous:
20k SPG converts to 25k JAL. 32k SPG converts to 40k JAL, which is what you need for a coach ticket. However, you need to transfer 40k SPG to get 50k JAL.

Question

Flying first class emirates. Will a child also cost 100k miles?

Judy

Who is Emirates? And Jal is Japanese airlines?

Ron

@Help:

@Dan @help

Thanks for the response. I tried checking JAL website to redeem mileage for an award ticket for the round trip Athens, but the website is confusing and doesn’t give me the option to choose Athens as a destination.

What is the best way to check availability?

me

@Hanan: ye. Maybe do some research. What a bad unrelated post. Keep it relevant

Ron

@Dan:

Dan, when you say it needs to be transferred in increments of 20k points to get the bonus, does that mean make multiple transfers of 20k each, in separate batches?
OR can I make transfers of 60k points to get 75k points?

Duvid

Is there a post that explains how to upgrade your seat with points?

David

Is availability loaded yet on JL?
i dont see it on the JL website

Ronnie

@David:
David & Dan
I just called JAL, looking for mileage tickets to Athens in July. They told me nothing was available yet on points. They said it was 65k points one way on business, or 100k points round trip, and they were unsure of the fees at this time since Emirates is not a OneWorld partner.

Post back here if you get some other information or availability.

Anonymous

@Dan:
Thanks Dan
I already have accommodations booked for July, so hoping my specific dates open up on points.

Can you confirm that 100k points BC roundtrip is correct?

Joseph

Hi Dan how can I open JAL account?

David

When do transfers from SPG-JAL post?
when is the cutoff or is it not a weekly posting to JAL?

David

One way is an option ?

B

Is it worth booking this with Hybrid points?

David

@Dan:
Still better then unitex offers for partners, isn’t it?

Sam

What about Chase UR points to Virgin then to Alaska Air to be able to book with JAL?

sam

I flew one way emirates milan to jfk THANKS TO DAN. I didnt feel any uncomfortable atmosphere. I was in first class -so I entered the business class/first class lounge -the entry to the plane is from the lounge. In the lounge i had coffee and fruit. I asked for raw nuts and they had walnuts.and the main flight attendant gave us a tour of the plane. The mensroom has a special place for washing feet and the prayer room has korans and carpets. I did mincha there anyway. Im sure you saw pictures of the beautiful plane and showers. The kosher food was nothing to ride home about. it was a simple business class meal, served in airline meal disposable with hechsher from biale rebbe.
i am not a big drinker so the royal salute and blue label didnt talk to me. The main flight attendant (who was christian) took me on a tour and I did see arabic woman with headcoverings in economy class.
I would fly emirates again.

ur

How many U R to JAL?
Woyjd work ord to Athens or Milan?
Same cost at JAL?

Tt

It’s so annoying. Cuz lax-dxb direct is only 82.5 in biz class. And JFK-Milan is 105k.

Ron

Anyone get any luck with availability in July to Athens?

If anyone has an abundance of points and willing to sell, let me know!

dovid

dan when do you think july availability will open up?

Ron

@dovid:

Wondering the same thing, been calling every week since this post a month ago. Looking for RT to Athens, Nothing available yet, they only offer via Dubai which doesn’t make sense.

Frustrating…

Derek

Hi Dan,

Any idea how, or from which location charge YQ? I’m trying to do JFK/BOS/IAD -> DXB -> CAI -> DXB. I keep seeing conflicting information about YQ collection and unfortunately you can’t get a straight answer from JAL unless you have the miles and are in the ticketing process.

I’d much rather find out if YQ will be added and expensive prior to transfer of SPG to JAL.

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