Update, 5/9: Lufthansa has failed to respond to our multiple requests for comment.
Meyer Tauber shares that Mark Goldfeder, the director of the National Jewish Advocacy Center, will represent the passengers on Monday’s Lufthansa flight 1397.
“Over the past week, multiple individuals have reached out to share their own troubling experiences with Lufthansa. It’s disheartening that the 2022 incident didn’t move the needle. I’m hopeful that with Mark Goldfeder and NJAC Law leading the charge, this will be the final straw—and Lufthansa will finally be held accountable for its actions.”
Update: In response to the disturbing incident of discrimination by @lufthansa, we’ve retained renowned civil rights attorney @MarkGoldfeder of @NJACLaw to represent us. This is more than just our case, it’s about accountability, dignity, and standing up against antisemitism. https://t.co/rCewtYhBCp
— Meyer Tauber (@meyertauber) May 9, 2025
Mark Goldfeder also represented the passengers from the May 2022 Lufthansa incident that led to the DOT determining and fining Lufthansa for discrimination on the basis of religion:
Thank you @PeteButtigieg and @USDOT for holding airlines accountable for discrimination. I was proud to represent these passengers, and that thanks to our efforts Lufthansa became the first airline to adopt the IHRA definition. #IHRAshouldbeeasyhttps://t.co/hl0VlmfZ5W
— Mark Goldfeder (@MarkGoldfeder) October 15, 2024
Originally posted on 5/5:
We receive reports on a near-daily basis from poorly treated passengers around the world. While we can’t investigate most of them, and we decline to write about many others after investigating, some make the cut for egregious behavior. This is one of those cases.
In May 2022, DansDeals investigated an incident where 128 visibly Jewish passengers were denied boarding for their connecting Lufthansa flight from Frankfurt to Budapest. That culminated in a 7-figure settlement for the passengers as well as a $4 million fine from the US Department of Transportation. The Department concluded its lengthy investigation with a 653-page report that Lufthansa had discriminated on the basis of religion and engaged in unfair business practices.
I spoke with multiple passengers today who allege they, too, were unfairly targeted by Lufthansa in Prague.
As in the 2022 incident, these passengers made a pilgrimage to visit the grave of Rabbi Yeshaya Steiner of Kerestir, known as Reb Shayala Kerestirer, on the 3 Iyar yahrtzeit (date of his passing) in 1925.
They then spent Shabbos in Israel before scrambling to rebook their Lufthansa flight to Frankfurt that was cancelled after a Houthi missile hit the grounds of Ben Gurion Airport.
5 visibly Hasidic Jews flew from Tel Aviv on Bluebird flight 462, which arrived in Prague at 12:36pm today. They were all booked separately.
Meyer Tauber and a friend went to an airport lounge, while others milled about the airport or waited at the gate for Lufthansa flight 1397 from Prague to Frankfurt.
When Mayer got to the Lufthansa gate shortly before boarding, he heard them page him and Herman Deutsch to come to the podium. They asked them if they were ok sitting in an exit row, to which they answered in the affirmative. The gate agent then told them they were going to have to check in their carry-on bags. Mayer asked why that would be, and the agent said it was oversized. When Mayer asked to put his bag in the sizer, he was able to fit it in, but the agent said you aren’t allowed to fit it in, it has to be able to be dropped in without touching it.
The agent then said Mayer was not allowed to take his Tefillin out of his bag as he was also wearing a fanny pack. When Mayer said he was entitled to a personal item and carry-on, he was able to retrieve his Tefillin from his bag before it was checked.
Herman didn’t fare as well. The agent refused to allow him to touch the bag to retrieve his tefillin, and if he didn’t hand over the bag immediately, there would be an added fee. The agent was unwilling to explain what the added fee was for, but Herman complied.
The gate agent then systematically walked around the gate area and called the other 3 Hasidic Jews to go to the podium. Their bags were subject to a drop test, where the bag would only be allowed to pass through if it dropped right into the sizer, without the men being allowed to fit the bag into the sizer.
The bag had to drop right in without the passengers being allowed to adjust the wheels or try to fit it in:
The employees tried to stop them from taking pictures:
2 bags didn’t pass the absurd test, and the men with those bags were not allowed to touch their bags to remove their Tefillin, under threat of being removed from the flight.
In all, 4 bags were forced to be checked in.
The men explained that they had a connecting flight on United from Frankfurt to Newark, but were told that the bags would be checked through to Newark.
Aron Grosz was sitting at the gate by himself when he saw the other Hasidic Jews brought over to the podium. He was wondering what was happening when a female gate agent came for him as well and said he had to go to the podium.
Even before the wheel went into the sizer, he was told it would have to be gate checked, despite it being able to fit by just moving the wheel. He was not allowed to touch his bag after that, even to remove his Tefillin. He has flown with his bag on flights on many airlines without issue and never experienced such rudeness or high tension, but didn’t want to be removed from the flight so he let them take his bag.
Still, he didn’t like what was going on at all. The men all acted respectfully, but were being treated like criminals.
He took out his phone to take pictures of the bags and gate agents, which triggered a gate agent to page for a supervisor. The supervisor demanded that he open his phone and delete any pictures.
When he asked the supervisor why they were being targeted when many people in the boarding area had even larger carry-on bags, the supervisor said if you ask that again, you won’t be boarding this flight.
Aron was shocked that the gate agent didn’t make an effort to hide the fact that they were targeting only the visibly Jewish passengers on the flight. They could have easily called up a few other passengers with even larger carry-ons to the podium, but they didn’t.
Did you know you can undelete photos from your phone?
These were the gate agents who were accused of being aggressive and targeted all of the visibly Jewish passengers on the flight:
A gate agent and the supervisor:
On the flight, the men noted many bags that were significantly larger than their carry-ons, had made it onto the flight without issue.
The men had a tight connection in Frankfurt before they boarded United flight 75 to Newark without issue, where they noted the gate agents and flight attendants were much more friendly than on Lufthansa. They didn’t have time to file a complaint in Frankfurt.
Unfortunately, their carry-on bags that were promised to be tagged to Newark never made it, and they left the airport without their bags and Tefillin.
Meyer is a world traveler and is still shocked at the incident. He was part of a group in 2022 that met with Tal Muscal, Lufthansa’s head of Corporate Communications in the Americas, who promised Lufthansa would provide sensitivity training for their employees.
Meyer’s carry-on bag, in Tel Aviv:
Mayer says that he isn’t interested in money. He wants to see Lufthansa investigate and provide an official apology for the profiling. And he wants to know what will change with employee training and how it will differ from the response to the 2022 incident.
He said he has also heard from other visibly Hasidic Jews who have been targeted by Lufthansa gate agents in Prague.
He plans on filing a DOT complaint and hopes to receive an apology from Lufthansa and what they will do so that others aren’t targeted in the future.
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Lufthansa Accused Of Antisemitism, Again!
Last year, the @USDOT released part of their 653 page report on a story we broke back in 2022. They found @lufthansa discriminated on the basis of religion and engaged in unfair business practices.
I spoke with multiple passengers… pic.twitter.com/ixbaFtUzTS
— DansDeals (@DansDeals) May 6, 2025
DansDeals reached out to Lufthansa earlier today for comment, but we haven’t yet received a response.
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Not looking to be devil’s advocat overhere
But maybe because you’re seated in an emergency exit. They want to make sure your bag will fit in the overhead ?
Only after asked abot the emergency exit they where asked to check their bags
The other Hasidic Jews on the flight were not in the exit row and the agents personally went up to them to have their bags checked as well, while apparently ignoring everyone else’s large bags.
They weren’t all sitting at the emergency exit.
The exit row has the same size overhead bin as any other row. You also aren’t required to put your bag in the bin directly above you.
The exact same thing happened to me with Lufthansa from Budapest to JFK. My carry on still had the approved tag from my flight to Budapest and the made me and all other Jewish people to check in carry on luggage. On the plane you saw others with various sizes carry on.
I’d get in contact with Dan to see if he could intro you to the men on this flight. Lufthansa needs to know about this problem.
We were one of the people on the Lufthansa flight from BUD to JFK on Sunday and had a similar experience.
My wife was also singled out and forced to check her carry-on despite many larger bags being allowed on. We pleaded to allow us to attempt to bring it on board as we had a short stopover in Munich with a connection to JFK. They would not allow it. Needless to say, the bag did not make it to JFK on our flight. We are still waiting for it to be delivered.
They did not want us to take anything out of the bag, but since it was my wife’s jewelry and shaitels, we did not take “no” for an answer and removed it quickly despite the women at the gate giving us attitude about it. At the time I did not attribute it to anything more than an airline employee on a power trip. Now that I’m reading that it was not just us … I wonder.
Ditto for me. Had my carry on confiscated at the gate for LH1343 (BUD to FRA) on Friday, May 1, and witnessed the same done to another Hasidic passenger (that you, Pinny?). Naturally it didn’t make it through with my connecting flight to JFK and was only delivered 3 days later.
I was on flight Thursday May 1st from Budapest to JFK via Vienna.
Maybe if we fly Nazi Air next year we’ll have a better outcome…
Don’t randomly throw out labels unless you are willing to accept labels.
Go right ahead. I’ve been called dirty Jew, Kike, and every thing in between. I’ve been spit on, hit, cursed at. I’ve had my yarmulke stolen off my head, checked for horns, and accused of deicide. I have no problem with labels. So yeah, I will call them Nazis. You don’t want to, that’s fine, but don’t get offended on their behalf. Just because the laws in the Fatherland say you can’t call someone a Nazi it doesn’t mean that I can’t do that here, and it certainly doesn’t mean that they aren’t Nazis. You want to support them, be my guest, but I’ll avoid flying Luftwaffe Air. Something about the way the pilots click their heels together just rubs me the wrong way.
Yes, and God forbid anyone call them nazis….they get violent
Germany has laws against calling somebody a nazi. In FRA a nasty gate agent tried to get me to use the word so that I could get arrested.
We need a Dave Portnoy reaction here!
This has happened to me multiple times at Krakow Airport with Lufthansa—every time, they single out all the visibly Jewish passengers and make them check their bags
OMG, again ?
Egregious!
Does dot have jurisdiction if the flight didn’t touch the us?
twice, on business class fares from the US to TLV or the return flights, kosher meals that had been ordered were unavailable. on one flight, I was offered some fruit.
I don’t fly lufthansa now.
(the kosher business class meals on lufthansa & many other airlines are wholly inadequate. the amount allocated by the airlines to the caterers is insufficient to provide a good quality meal.)
Beyond Disgraceful!
Shame on Lufthansa!!
Sadly, this is common.
I’ve heard someone else just discussing how this is happening all over Europe. Sad. Terrifying.
Thank you so much for being on top of these types of incidents. Nobody else would be reporting on it. I have flown Lufthansa numerous times and never experienced anything but a positive experience. It’s such a shame that they’re not actively weeding out the bad apples who are giving their company a bad image or antisemitism, something I would hope the German government would be working hard to contest.
In my opinion, all complaints should be directed to the complaints center of the airline as the European airlines really try to be fair and might help for the future.
Guys please take video next time and send to a friend or hide in private folder in case they tell u to delete
This happened to me on a United flight. Said all the overhead storage was full (even though it could fit under the seat in front of me) and made me gate check. Allowed plenty of people with carry one on board after me. They did let me take my stuff out tho.
Had it multiple times where the gate agent tags my bag and tells me to give it to agents at the door I just say ok then quietly rip of the tag and walk past by the agent.
Did they scan it into the system or just tag it?
Terrible! Don’t fly them!
I just flew on a Delta flight JFK to TLV and everyone was very polite since I have Diamond and flew in Delta One. They agreed for me to organize a maariv minyan since I am an Avel and I was careful to make it a small group and pray quietly. We were so quiet that Haredi passengers nearby didn’t realize we were praying. When we finished an anti semitic Israeli started yelling and screaming at us that we should be ashamed of ourselves and we should all go to the army (despite the fact that everyone was American and over age 30 or 40). He caused such a terrible scene that other Delta staff came and just assumed it was the religious passengers causing the scene, and without inquiring decided to punish the religious passengers. Several crew members made shocking comments to me about their opinion of religious Jews and then they said there will be no further prayers on the flight because it was against FAA regulations and Delta policy. Yeah right.
Typical Israeli mindset
Not to mention Lufthansa’s incredibly cramped secondary screening room in Frankfurt for their Israeli bound planes. The room is at the end of the world, has a tiny bathroom for 300 passengers, no water fountain, 2 power outlets and a grossly overpriced kiosk.
But the kicker is the prominent display of a huge picture of Asiana’s Flight 214 aircraft (above said power outlet) that crashed in SFO killing 3 and injuring nearly 200. The plane is painted white, but the tail number is clearly visible. HL7742. It’s Lufthansa’s own cruel inside joke taunting the Israeli/Jewish passengers.
Had the same experience in Prague with Delta/KLM a couple of moths ago. The agents singled out myself and my wife to size check our carry ons despite the substantially larger ones carried by other passenger’s. Then sniggered when they were done.
I can’t understand why anyone still flies Lufthansa given their history. Just STOP flying them.
Thank you Dan for once again standing up for the rights of passengers to be treated fairly and respectfully. Lufthansa has shown the world that Jew hatred runs deep and even millions in fines & massive shame won’t stop their personnel from taking another hit at their Jewish clients. Shame on Lufthansa for once again pulling off their masks and showing the ugly face of Jew hatred and racism.
Had the same thing in January was with a group of around 80 people flying from bud to muc and they were targeting the visibly jewish passengers
When will Jews stop flying Lufthansa?! We need to vote with our money. That is the only thing they will understand.
My husband was aggressively asked to remove his tzitzit at the Frankfurt airport security and wouldn’t let him through until he called a supervisor
TIME TO BOYCOTT. NO MORE EXCUSES.
Any good deal on body-cams? It’s crazy
My family of 4 had a similar experience recently with Lufthansa when we flew from TLV to Chicago. They wouldn’t allow us our 2 small roller bags to be carried on, the same ones we had as our carry ons the way to Israel on Lufthansa; though my husband was allowed to quickly grab his tefillin. And when we got to the gate we saw plenty of people carrying on even larger bags.
Overall our experience on Lufthansa was miserable
I’ll never understand why Jews continue to fly German airlines.
I don’t know why anyone would fly Lufthansa at this point it’s on you. They don’t want us on their planes we should get the message and not fly on their planes.
I had the exact same experience September 2023. We were on the boarding line in Krakow (9/18/23 KRK – FRA #UA8843) when the gate agent walked down the boarding line and called me and my friend out – we were visible Jewish, and told us our wheeled carry on was to heavy. I asked for a weight check and it was under the max weight. She then said it’s to big, i responded that I’ve flown Lufthansa on the way into Poland and it wasn’t to big for that flight… She then put the bag in the sizer and it fit perfectly but she said it’s to late once they measure it, it had to be gate checked. I explained that i have a extremely short stopover and I’m 100% sure my check in luggage won’t make the switch. And will therefore not arrive in JFK when i land, i will file a lost luggage company and get the max amount of compensation. I asked if she’s willing to take that risk and have Lufthansa pay money they shouldn’t have to… To which she replied with a smile yes.
100% religious discrimination and antisemitism.
Apparently, the last fine was just a speeding ticket for them.. hopefully MSM picks it up, and DOT gets involved. I could see the Trump Admin making a big stink out of this.
How easily we forgive and forget.
Why are we flying with Lufthansa at all?
Why do Jews continue to give their money and business to Lufthansa?
There are other airlines, possibly with less convenient schedules or perhaps more expensive fares. Is it worth losing your tefillin for the “pleasure” of flying with staff and an aircrew whose grandparents probably killed your grandparents?
None of us are naive and it puzzles me to see how shocked y’all are at blatant antisemitism from the staff of a GERMAN AIRLINE.
What would be the right thing for the passenger being singled out to do? Give some advise if such a story ever happens again.
If giving them business means they get fined 4 million so be it.
Please note! they refused to pay the fine, saying they are not under the American court rule as it happened in Germany… That’s the outcome!
What would be the right thing for the passenger being singled out to do? Give some advise if such a story ever happens again.
Agreed, sometimes we don’t have the flexibility of choosing airlines and we need to be prepared
I had the same in Athens past summer taking Lufthansa flight to Frankfort and the to Brussels in front of all the passengers our whole family was called over and told that we have to check in our bags when asked y he told us it was oversized after putting it in the sizer he said but it’s overweight we said it’s not overweight he started screaming that we will be denied boarding we asked why because it’s over weight back and forth he went to bring the scale butt it wasn’t working and luckily there was a lady at the gate that tried to help us by check in she went over to him and told to just let go he left the gate
Regardless of anything, why did they refuse to let them take pictures of the luggage scale? I would think calling the police should be in order when they refused to allow photographs of a scale, on public property in an airport. Is this North Korea or Cuba? Legally, I should be able to walk up to a podium at JFK (even if I don’t have a flight), and take all the pictures I want of scales, toilet bowls, sinks, or tile floors.
In USA, you are for sure correct, but Europe doesn’t have the same freedoms, and this may be one of those differences.
As this seems to be a repetitive issue with the Lufthansa gate agents (at least at the Budapest and Krakow airports), it would be easy get such an episode recorded ON camera, the traveler should ask the agent: are you targeting me and the other passengers because we look Jewish? When they instinctively answer yes, you’ll have your clear evidence. Jewish travelers should be aware and potentially ready.
https://ejewishphilanthropy.com/ajc-holds-antisemitism-prevention-training-for-lufthansa-after-jewish-passengers-booted-off-flight/
American Jewish Committee training about frum an observing Jews?
Can’t teach an old dog new tricks.
While not Jewish myself, as a fellow human being I find this behavior repulsive and sickening. I will never fly that German airline again.
The same thing happened to me, as a frum woman, in the Vienna airport on Air Austria. First she told me it didn’t fit (it was a very small wheelie) and when I showed her it did, she said it weighed too much. I told her it was already weighed and met requirements at Ben Gurian and she threatened to throw me off the flight if I didn’t give her the bag.
I told the stewardess the story and how upset I was, pointing out where there was space right above my seat and telling her I felt singled out. She told me to tell the head stewardess my story and she made the luggage guy who was collecting the bags at the gate go back and get my bag.
It was beyond nice of the on-board personnel but, from their response, I believe this wasn’t the first time this happened and they knew exactly what was going on.
Didn’t someone have a discussion with upper management in Lufthansa after the previous incident? Maybe they should reach out to them for action?
is it illegal totake photos that they can just tell you to delete?
Depends on the country
i allways hope it should happen to me so maybe il win 17500 usd its worth it
The problem is the we use the antisemitic card so often that people see cases line these as crying wolf.
I had the same thing too in Frankfurt.
Me and my wife were the only 2 passengers that were asked to weigh our bags.
When I asked why I was singled out, she said “bec only yours looked too big – and I was right”.
I managed to take a video and send to them, and was called soon after with a full apology and refund for the bag fee.
LH has fully refundable business class seats.
What were to happen if thousands of seats on assorted flights got canceled just before takeoff and had to fly empty? Asking for a friend
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NOTE to Dan: Not that the discrimination is justified, by maybe this is what happens when the whole world is watching in horror what the “Jewish” state of Israel is doing to the Palestinian people.
Israel is making you more and more unsafe in this world.
Until you realize that and admit it and demand Netanyahu stop the war, Jews will only be discriminated more across the world.
You reap what Netanyahu sows.
I think you should be better educated and realize what the Palestinians are doing to Israel.
Palestinians invaded Israel on October 7 (and not the other way around).
Hamas took hundreds hostage and committed barbaric and atrocious murders. They even murdered hostages. They are proud of it.
Hamas are evil. They are not moral. Israel is moral. Before going to an area to look for terrorists, they first warn civilians to evacuate the area. Hamas and all the other terrorist organizations do nothing of the sort.
There was an analogy I heard for the Israeli-Hamas conflict. One day you wake up and you see your neighbor killing your family. After he’s done, he runs to a different neighbor to hide. You run to the police for help but instead of helping you and putting the murderous neighbor behind bars, the police say that you provoked him because of an earlier fight that you had with your neighbor. Not only that, but if you hurt the neighbor who’s hiding the murderous neighbor, you’ll be guilty of murdering an innocent civilian. Never mind that your neighbor came and started killing your family, who are innocent civilians.
This sounds extreme, but this is the Israeli-Gaza conflict that started on October 7, 2023.
Now give us your genius justification or understanding for the holocaust.
Was it also Netanyahu?
When this logic is applied to Muslims that is called “Islamophobia”.
Sorry, you can’t persecute people of the jewish religion who are not even citizens of some country called Israel and may not even believe in Zionism becuase of the actions of a third party. That is classic, textbook racism and discrimination, and is Illegal.
Note to John: Not condoning the behavior of Israel, but even before Israel existed they found a reason to murder 6 million in cold blood
That’s crazy.
So we can discriminate against Americans of Chinese origin because we don’t like what China is doing to Tibet?
Or people who’s ancestors came to the US from St Peterburg or Moscow because we think that Putin is being a total thug in Ukraine?
Or are you just excusing anti semitism?
So the airline is also singling out Russians b/c of Putin’s unwarranted aggression on Ukraine or just Jewish people defending themselves from terrorists who use their fellow Arabs as human shields?
John;
What was your excuse back in 1939 when there was no Israel Yet? oh! you’re not old enough to remember……………. Sorry
What do Germans have to do with Palestinians. They have much more to do with Ukrainians if anything. Germans had issues with Jews before Israel existed as well.
There should be a way to flag comments like these as spam for removal
So by the same token, you think Germans should be abused for the actions of Nazis, English and French for colonialism, Arabs for terrorism, Japanese for the Rape of Nanjing, Chinese for Tibet, Americans for wiping out the Indians, Dutch for the abuses in Indonesia, Belgians for the genocide in the Congo (look it up!)?
Or does this only apply to Jews?
If the latter, this has a name.
One second, what do American Jews have to do with the Israeli government?
In truth, zero. But Israel calls itself the Jewish State, and claims to represent Jews worldwide.
I am not making excuses for Lufthansa (which I wouldn’t fly anyway), but gate agents for airlines are usually hired from the local population; although they could be citizens of the national airlines’ country residing in the foreign airport country.
That being said, we have to realize that, especially after October 7th, there has been a massive increase of open & aggresive anti-Jewish behavior all over the world. Official company policies will be subverted.with fabricated excuses by the perpetrators because they can get away with it and they don’t care about the consequences to the company.
Some of the anti-semitism is new and some has always been there, sometimes hidden, other times overt. Apparently, we are now in a time when anti-semitism is open, aggresive, and more tolerated.
This is just an observation. Even with Israel as our homeland there is still the rest of the wotld that we still need to live with and in. Unfortunately, i don’t have any solution, except to stay Jewish & proud and just deal with this reality as best we can,.And have EMUNAH in HaShem!
You normally have a supervisor from the airline who is not a local at the gate area
That depend son how many flights the airline or related airlines fly from an outstation.
Most airlines use ground handling agents.
In Budapest Lufthansa uses Celebi, and the gate agents may even speak German as a 2nd language but they for sure have no Lufthansa training or connection
Not that it’s OK, but if we’re discussing this scenario Lufthansa might actually get off the hook for this
Yesterday 5/5, I flew flight LH400 from Frankfurt to JFK. The lead flight attendant asked me if I would need a kosher meal, though she said they had none at the moment. This was after they announced that boarding was done. They asked me if there was anyone else I knew that needed a kosher meal. They went around the plane to count how many meals they needed. I am not visibly Chassidish, though the other jewish passengers were. The pilot then announced that they had a “loading issue”, and they waited an hour to take off. In the meantime they arranged kosher meals for us.
Personally it would have been better to take off on time, though some of the other passengers were really hungry and this was helpful.
Didnt think they did it out of love, may have been to avoid more bad press, though they were really nice about it, and the whole team was very friendly and accommodating the entire flight.
Wow antisemitism in germany just shocking
I had an incident back in October with Luftansa. I was flying with my 6 year old son, and brought along a small foldup Razor scooter. I was in 6 different air ports, nobody had an issue with, until I flew Luftansa, from Frankfurt to JFK. The made me check it in. I was really frustrating!
I also had a bad experience. Last pesach I used them JFK-Vienna-Warsaw and they literally bark like concentration camp Nazis.
They went over to an old visibly Jewish man on the flight who was getting something from overhead right before taxiing and slammed it shut on him angrily and barked for him to sit.
Everyone is missing the point here
This has nothing to do with lufthansa rather then the ground staff in Prague airport . Ground staff can be a different company sometimes
We should complain to the Czech authorities they have pretty strict laws against this behavior
They are still contracted to work for LH, and represent their company. Oftentimes, when employees of a company take the liberty to act in a certain way, it’s a result of company culture or a confidence that their actions will not bear consequences.
A year After covid on the Lufthansa Newark flight they were singling out only Orthodox Jews that they need to purchase N95 masks and reg mask are not approved made them loose place at check-in and go to vending machine buy for $10 per pc, before boarding the plane they have given out for free N95 masks even though they made the Orthodox Jews buy them check in never fly Lufthansa they antisemitism is real
הלכה היא בידוע שעשו שונא ליעקב
This happened to my wife and I on Air Canada YYZ-LHR, they allowed plenty of people with bigger bags on but made us check in ours, threatened to remove us from the flight if we didn’t comply. After sending in a complaint they refunded the bag fee and gave each of us a $500 coupon. But was 100% antisemitic
There should be investigated the rules of taking away bags at gate if this is in their decision and if they are not correct you should better be denied boarding and then charge them compensation according to the EU law.
Just a speculation here: The airlines are raking it in when it comes to checked bag charges. Perhaps they are trying to deter people from fitting everything into carry-on so that on future trips they don’t take a change and just check a bag?
I watched Swiss air check-in agents at a connection forcing a Jewish man to check in his rolling laptop bag (literally) because it won’t fit in the overhead bin or the flight is too full.
I personally have an aversion to LH due to obsessive bag-sizing practices that make Spirit and Frontier look generous. (and my experience was flying out of JFK, on a large aircraft – so no excuses about overhead space or full flights) I happened to think then too that they targeted certain Jewish passengers, though not everyone – so I considered it inconclusive. Their attitude in general was bordering with hostility.
I won’t consider flying through Europe at all, and I book my flights to and from the US through Delta only on El Al planes. Yes, it costs more. So I take fewer trips.
I believe it was a misunderstanding, the Czech Republic is the least anti-Semitic country in Europe, Jews are welcome here, especially when visiting beautiful Jewish monuments. What we don’t like are some conceited tourists, for example from the USA, who think they can afford everything here.
I actually had a real bad experience in the city of Prague with all the locals being very “unsympathetic”
Well, they used to deport Jewish people. Now they only deport Jewish bags. I think we should be thankful.
I think we should take it for granted tat they hate us & not expect anything better.
Who can help me file a complaint about anti-Semitism by a counter manager at the Virgin Atlantic check-in counter at JFK?
We don’t learn, do we?
How difficult is it to understand that Jews should never fly that accursed airline. It’s illogical to expect the descendants of those who gassed, tortured, and starved us to behave any differently. They’re still Amalek and nothing has changed. Nor will it.
Stop flying that airline. Even if it saves you a few dollars. And if you do, don’t act shocked when they treat you like they hate you. They do. Figure it out already.
Easy to say that from your couch.
When its a more convenient flight and you are saving $1000 on 5 tickets things are a little harder to be so enthusiastic…
I travel plenty but long ago I decided never to give the murderers of my nation a single penny of mine nor any further trust.
Then you’ll never fly any airline or visit any country. There have been unimaginable amounts of Jewish blood spilled just about everywhere in the world. The Holocaust, the Inquisition, the Crusades, Roman-Jewish wars, etc, etc, etc.
Sooo I’ll say something unpopular, but what I’ve seen is that Orthodox Jews ON AVERAGE tend to be pushier, more argumentative, and more entitled than most. That does rub people the wrong way and leaves a bad taste in people’s mouths. Should that allow others in a group to be treated badly for the behavior of some? No, but that’s often how humans are. It happens the other way too, with many Orthodox Jews reacting negatively toward members of some other cultural groups at times, though granted usually with less serious consequences. I’m not excusing any of the alleged behavior, just trying to explain what might go through people’s minds at times that contribute toward it.
You make a good point.
I guess the Nazi’s were right to kill 6 million of us because we were pushy…
Doesn’t seem very logical to make a selektzia of Orthodox Jews at the gate to force them to gate-check their perfectly compliant bags just because you think that Orthodox Jews are “pushier” and “more argumentative”.
As said before, I fly Lufthansa group flights almost weekly. I’m not painting them as Tzaddikim, but I’m visibly Chassidish (and quite large) and I have never had a Negative experience with Lufthansa or their group. They are always nice courteous and very helpful (I’m not very demanding but I get the perks!)
Most of the incidents discussed here sound like airport employees (private companies with Lufthansa ids at times) it may be that Lufthansa needs to be made to pay for this to learn their lesson to train all contractors of the requirements to deal with them.
Or maybe there are always bad apples. Even in USA carriers you have many stories of antisemitism. But you would never blame spirit for that, because it’s America!
Regardless – my advice is as follows, because someone is acting wrongly, don’t react in a way which will cause a Chilul HaShem. You can always fight and dispute these things later.
You say that you are flying Lufthansa almost weekly. That means that you are a frequent flyer and probably fly in Business class. They don’t do it to their premium travelers.
I personally never had a bad experience with them when flying with a business class ticket.
But just recently I experienced the same as the fellow passengers in this incident, while flying with them in couch.
While the long haul flight was in Business class, the short flight was in economy, I was the only Jew on the flight and visibly Chassidish. And I was the only person of the flight that had to check in the hand luggage.
Amazing how this seems to happen so often! SO many airlines, so many cities, constant complaints. I’m starting to wonder if there’s something else to look at. How could it be possible that everyone, everywhere, and every company is anti-semitic? Something seems very “off” with this reporting, as usual.
until you experience yourself