Qantas Adds The Ability To Book Same Day Award Tickets! New Comparison Of Qantas And El Al Award Rates With Taxes And Fees Included!

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June 2019 will forever be remembered of the month of Qantas. I won’t rehash the posts, you can read them above. Though I probably should try to roundup all of the information again into one post…

I noted in this post that one con of using Qantas points is that you can’t book a last minute award ticket for travel on the same day of booking.

Qantas seemingly has been actively working this entire month to fix every problem that I point out, including erroneous taxes and the ability to book El Al flights from Boston and Miami. I’ve been impressed at the speed of these fixes.

And now DDF member wakinike points out that they now allow same-day award bookings so you can book a last-minute trip with your Qantas points!

 

Several readers asked for a Qantas and El Al comparison chart with taxes included, so I’ve made that chart as well.

Here is a comparison for how many points you’ll need with Qantas (regularly or during a transfer promo period like the current one) or with El Al Matmid.

There are 2 of these charts below. Chart #1 is the old chart, which is valid for the current pricing on premium economy and business class awards. This chart has the old higher pricing for economy, which is no longer applicable.

Chart #2 is the new chart, which is valid for the current pricing in economy and will be valid for future pricing on premium economy and business class awards starting on 9/18.

In other words, if you want to book round-trip travel from NYC to Tel Aviv before 9/18 for travel anytime in the next year, you’ll need 75.6K Qantas points in economy, 126K in premium economy, or 156K in business.

If you transfer points from AMEX with a 44% bonus that means you’ll need about 52.5K points in economy, 87.5K points in premium economy, or 108,333 points in business class. If you need a one-way ticket now you’ll need 26,250 points in economy, 43,750 points for premium economy, or 54,167 points for business class.

If you want to book round-trip travel from NYC to Tel Aviv as of 9/18, you’ll need 75.6K Qantas points in economy, 141.6K in premium economy, or 180K in business. That’s a 10% decrease from previous economy rates, a 12.4% increase in premium economy, and an 11.5% increase in business class.

If you transfer points from AMEX with a 44% bonus now and want to hold that for future use, you’ll need to transfer about 52.5K points in economy, 98,333 points in premium economy, or 125K points in business class. If you need a one-way ticket for future use you’ll need to transfer about 26,250 points in economy, 49,167 points for premium economy, or 62.5K points during the current promo for business class.

  • You will need to round-up to their nearest 500 points for AMEX transfers to Qantas.
  • The chart below includes rates for round-trip travel, though both programs allow for one-way travel at half of the round-trip rate.
  • The first 3 columns are Qantas rates based on no bonus, a 20% bonus, or a 44% bonus. The taxes will be same for these 3 columns. The 4th column are the rates for AMEX points transferred into El Al Matmid.

Chart #1:

Flying between Tel Aviv and:AMEX/Citi points transferred to Qantas at a 1:1 ratio for a round-trip on El Al::::::::::::::::::::::::AMEX points transferred to Qantas with a 20% bonus for a round-trip on El Al:::::::::::::::::::::AMEX points transferred to Qantas with a 44% bonus for a round-trip on El Al:::::::::::::::::::::AMEX points transferred to El Al points for a round-trip for Executives on El Al, with fuel surcharges:::::::::::::::
NYC winter84K Economy+$57
126K Premium+$57
156K Business+$57
70K Economy
105K Premium
130K Business
58,333 Economy
87.5K Premium
108,333 Business
80K+$300 Economy
140K+$200 Premium
255K+$350 Business
NYC summer84K Economy+$57
126K Premium+$57
156K Business+$57
70K Economy
105K Premium
130K Business
58,333 Economy
87.5K Premium
108,333 Business
88K+$350 Economy
180K+$200 Premium
255K+$350 Business
Boston winter84K Economy+$57
126K Premium+$57
156K Business+$57
70K Economy
105K Premium
130K Business
58,333 Economy
87.5K Premium
108,333 Business
60K+$350 Economy
140K+$200 Premium
212.5K+$300 Business
Boston summer84K Economy+$57
126K Premium+$57
156K Business+$57
70K Economy
105K Premium
130K Business
58,333 Economy
87.5K Premium
108,333 Business
88K+$300 Economy
180K+$200 Premium
212.5K+$300 Business
Chicago winter100K Economy+$57
150K Premium+$57
184K Business+$57
83,333 Economy
125K Premium
153,333 Business
69,444 Economy
104,166 Premium
127,777 Business
80K+$350 Economy
184K+$300 Premium
297.5K+$350 Business
Chicago summer100K Economy+$57
150K Premium+$57
184K Business+$57
83,333 Economy
125K Premium
153,333 Business
69,444 Economy
104,166 Premium
127,777 Business
88K+$350 Economy
200K+$300 Premium
297.5K+$350 Business
Toronto winter84K Economy+$73
126K Premium+$73
156K Business+$73
70K Economy
105K Premium
130K Business
58,333 Economy
87.5K Premium
108,333 Business
80K+$270 Economy
140K+$270 Premium
178.5K+$320 Business
Toronto summer84K Economy+$73
126K Premium+$73
156K Business+$73
70K Economy
105K Premium
130K Business
58,333 Economy
87.5K Premium
108,333 Business
88K+$270 Economy
140K+$170 Premium
178.5K+$320 Business
Miami winter100K Economy+$57
150K Premium+$57
184K Business+$57
83,333 Economy
125K Premium
153,333 Business
69,444 Economy
104,166 Premium
127,777 Business
80K+$350 Economy
184K+$300 Premium
297.5K+$350 Business
Miami summer100K Economy+$57
150K Premium+$57
184K Business+$57
83,333 Economy
125K Premium
153,333 Business
69,444 Economy
104,166 Premium
127,777 Business
88K+$350 Economy
200K+$300 Premium
297.5K+$350 Business
Los Angeles winter112K Economy+$57
168K Premium+$57
208K Business+$57
93,333 Economy
140K Premium
173,333 Business
77,777 Economy
116,666 Premium
144,444 Business
100K+$300 Economy
184K+$350 Premium
297.5K+$450 Business
Los Angeles summer112K Economy+$57
168K Premium+$57
208K Business+$57
93,333 Economy
140K Premium
173,333 Business
77,777 Economy
116,666 Premium
144,444 Business
112K+$350 Economy
220K+$300 Premium
297.5K+$450 Business
San Francisco winter112K Economy+$57
168K Premium+$57
208K Business+$57
93,333 Economy
140K Premium
173,333 Business
77,777 Economy
116,666 Premium
144,444 Business
100K+$300 Economy
184K+$350 Premium
297.5K+$450 Business
San Francisco summer112K Economy+$57
168K Premium+$57
208K Business+$57
93,333 Economy
140K Premium
173,333 Business
77,777 Economy
116,666 Premium
144,444 Business
112K+$350 Economy
200K+$300 Premium
297.5K+$450 Business
London winter40K Economy+$191
60K Premium+$310
76K Business+$310
33,333 Economy
50K Premium
63,333 Business
27,777 Economy
41,666 Premium
52,777 Business
32K+$270 Economy
48K+$425 Premium
93.5K+$455 Business
London summer40K Economy+$191
60K Premium+$310
76K Business+$310
33,333 Economy
50K Premium
63,333 Business
27,777 Economy
41,666 Premium
52,777 Business
40K+$270 Economy
70K+$310 Premium
93.5K+$455 Business
Johannesburg winter70K Economy+$68
130K Business+$68
58,333 Economy
108,333 Business
48,611 Economy
90,277 Business
60K+$260 Economy
178.5K+$160 Business
Johannesburg summer70K Economy+$68
130K Business+$68
58,333 Economy
108,333 Business
48,611 Economy
90,277 Business
70K+$260 Economy
178.5K+$160 Business
Hong Kong winter84K Economy+$77
126K Premium+$77
156K Business+$79
70K Economy
105K Premium
130K Business
58,333 Economy
87.5K Premium
108,333 Business
88K+$210 Economy
140K+$210 Premium
212.5K+$210 Business
Hong Kong summer84K Economy+$77
126K Premium+$77
156K Business+$79
70K Economy
105K Premium
130K Business
58,333 Economy
87.5K Premium
108,333 Business
70K+$330 Economy
180K+$180 Premium
212.5K+$330 Business
Bangkok winter70K Economy+$61
105K Premium+$61
130K Business+$61
58,333 Economy
87.5K Premium
108,333 Business
48,611 Economy
72,916 Premium
90,277 Business
60K+$265 Economy
140K+$315 Premium
212.5K+$285 Business
Bangkok summer70K Economy+$61
105K Premium+$61
130K Business+$61
58,333 Economy
87.5K Premium
108,333 Business
48,611 Economy
72,916 Premium
90,277 Business
70K+$315 Economy
180K+$180 Premium
212.5K+$285 Business

 

Chart #2:

Flying between Tel Aviv and:AMEX/Citi points transferred to Qantas at a 1:1 ratio for a round-trip on El Al::::::::::::::::::::::::AMEX points transferred to Qantas with a 20% bonus for a round-trip on El Al::::::::::::::::::AMEX points transferred to Qantas with a 44% bonus for a round-trip on El Al::::::::::::::::::AMEX points transferred to El Al points for a round-trip for Executives on El Al, with fuel surcharges:::::::::::::::
NYC winter75.6K Economy+$57
141.6K Premium+$57
180K Business+$57
63K Economy
118K Premium
150K Business
52.5K Economy
98,333 Premium
125K Business
80K+$300 Economy
140K+$200 Premium
255K+$350 Business
NYC summer75.6K Economy+$57
141.6K Premium+$57
180K Business+$57
63K Economy
118K Premium
150K Business
52.5K Economy
98,333 Premium
125K Business
88K+$350 Economy
180K+$200 Premium
255K+$350 Business
Boston winter75.6K Economy+$57
141.6K Premium+$57
180K Business+$57
63K Economy
118K Premium
150K Business
52.5K Economy
98,333 Premium
125K Business
60K+$350 Economy
140K+$200 Premium
212.5K+$300 Business
Boston summer75.6K Economy+$57
141.6K Premium+$57
180K Business+$57
63K Economy
118K Premium
150K Business
52.5K Economy
98,333 Premium
125K Business
88K+$300 Economy
180K+$200 Premium
212.5K+$300 Business
Chicago winter90K Economy+$57
163.6K Premium+$57
209K Business+$57
75K Economy
136,333 Premium
174,166 Business
62.5K Economy
113,611 Premium
145,138 Business
80K+$350 Economy
184K+$300 Premium
297.5K+$350 Business
Chicago summer90K Economy+$57
163.6K Premium+$57
209K Business+$57
75K Economy
136,333 Premium
174,166 Business
62.5K Economy
113,611 Premium
145,138 Business
88K+$350 Economy
200K+$300 Premium
297.5K+$350 Business
Toronto winter75.6K Economy+$73
141.6K Premium+$73
180K Business+$73
63K Economy
118K Premium
150K Business
52.5K Economy
98,333 Premium
125K Business
80K+$270 Economy
140K+$270 Premium
178.5K+$320 Business
Toronto summer75.6K Economy+$73
141.6K Premium+$73
180K Business+$73
63K Economy
118K Premium
150K Business
52.5K Economy
98,333 Premium
125K Business
88K+$270 Economy
140K+$170 Premium
178.5K+$320 Business
Miami winter90K Economy+$57
163.6K Premium+$57
209K Business+$57
75K Economy
136,333 Premium
174,166 Business
62.5K Economy
113,611 Premium
145,138 Business
80K+$350 Economy
184K+$300 Premium
297.5K+$350 Business
Miami summer90K Economy+$57
163.6K Premium+$57
209K Business+$57
75K Economy
136,333 Premium
174,166 Business
62.5K Economy
113,611 Premium
145,138 Business
88K+$350 Economy
200K+$300 Premium
297.5K+$350 Business
Los Angeles winter100.6K Economy+$57
187K Premium+$57
238.4K Business+$57
83,833 Economy
155,833 Premium
198,666 Business
69,861 Economy
129,861 Premium
165,555 Business
100K+$300 Economy
184K+$350 Premium
297.5K+$450 Business
Los Angeles summer100.6K Economy+$57
187K Premium+$57
238.4K Business+$57
83,833 Economy
155,833 Premium
198,666 Business
69,861 Economy
129,861 Premium
165,555 Business
112K+$350 Economy
220K+$300 Premium
297.5K+$450 Business
San Francisco winter100.6K Economy+$57
187K Premium+$57
238.4K Business+$57
83,833 Economy
155,833 Premium
198,666 Business
69,861 Economy
129,861 Premium
165,555 Business
100K+$300 Economy
184K+$350 Premium
297.5K+$450 Business
San Francisco summer100.6K Economy+$57
187K Premium+$57
238.4K Business+$57
83,833 Economy
155,833 Premium
198,666 Business
69,861 Economy
129,861 Premium
165,555 Business
112K+$350 Economy
200K+$300 Premium
297.5K+$450 Business
London winter40K Economy+$191
69K Premium+$310
87.6K Business+$310
33,333 Economy
57.5K Premium
73K Business
27,777 Economy
47,916 Premium
60,833 Business
32K+$270 Economy
48K+$425 Premium
93.5K+$455 Business
London summer40K Economy+$191
69K Premium+$310
87.6K Business+$310
33,333 Economy
57.5K Premium
73K Business
27,777 Economy
47,916 Premium
60,833 Business
40K+$270 Economy
70K+$310 Premium
93.5K+$455 Business
Johannesburg winter60.4K Economy+$68
150K Business+$68
50,333 Economy
125K Business
41,944 Economy
104,166 Business
60K+$260 Economy
178.5K+$160 Business
Johannesburg summer60.4K Economy+$68
150K Business+$68
50,333 Economy
125K Business
41,944 Economy
104,166 Business
70K+$260 Economy
178.5K+$160 Business
Hong Kong winter75.6K Economy+$77
141.6K Premium+$77
180K Business+$79
63K Economy
118K Premium
150K Business
52.5K Economy
98,333 Premium
125K Business
88K+$210 Economy
140K+$210 Premium
212.5K+$210 Business
Hong Kong summer75.6K Economy+$77
141.6K Premium+$77
180K Business+$79
63K Economy
118K Premium
150K Business
52.5K Economy
98,333 Premium
125K Business
70K+$330 Economy
180K+$180 Premium
212.5K+$330 Business
Bangkok winter60.4K Economy+$61
118K Premium+$61
150K Business+$61
50,333 Economy
98,333 Premium
125K Business
41,944 Economy
81,944 Premium
104,166 Business
60K+$265 Economy
140K+$315 Premium
212.5K+$285 Business
Bangkok summer60.4K Economy+$61
118K Premium+$61
150K Business+$61
50,333 Economy
98,333 Premium
125K Business
41,944 Economy
81,944 Premium
104,166 Business
70K+$315 Economy
180K+$180 Premium
212.5K+$285 Business

 

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  • You can transfer AMEX points into Matmid points at a 50:1 ratio. 
  • You can transfer AMEX Or Citi points to Qantas at a 1:1 ratio, Barclays points at a 1.4:1 ratio, Capital One points at a 2:1.5 ratio, or Marriott points to Qantas at a 60K:25K ratio.

AMEX cards with transferable Membership Rewards points to El Al or Qantas include:

  • AMEX Blue Business Plus
  • AMEX Platinum Business
    • $595 annual fee, up to 75K points welcome bonus, earn 1.5 points per dollar on $5K+ transactions, $200 in annual airline fee credits, $200 in annual Dell credits, 1 year WeWork Global Office Space, Marriott and Hilton Gold status, 35% points rebate on paid airfare redemptions, Global Entry/Pre-check, AMEX Global lounge collection access.
    • For rates and fees of the AMEX Platinum Business Card, please visit here.
  • AMEX Gold Business Card
    • $295 annual fee, 35K points welcome bonus, 1 year G Suite Basic for 3 users and up to 1 year of ZipRecruiter Standard, earn up to 4 points per dollar.
    • For rates and fees of the AMEX Blue Business Plus Card, please visit here.
  • AMEX Gold Consumer Card
    • $250 annual fee, 40K points welcome bonus, $100 in annual airline fee credits, earn up to 4 points per dollar.
  • AMEX Platinum Consumer Card
    • $550 annual fee, up to 60K points welcome bonus, earn 5 points per dollar on airfare, $200 in annual airline fee credits, up to $200 in annual Uber credit, up to $100 in annual Saks credit, Marriott and Hilton Gold status, Global Entry/Pre-check, AMEX Global lounge collection access.
  • AMEX Everyday Preferred Consumer Card
    • $95 annual fee, up to 20K points welcome bonus, earn between 1.5-4.5 points per dollar everywhere with 30+ monthly transactions.
  • AMEX Everyday Consumer Card
    • No annual fee, up to 15K points welcome bonus, earn between 1.2-2.4 points per dollar everywhere with 20+ monthly transactions.

Barclays doesn’t currently offer any cards to new customers with transferable points. If you have a discontinued Arrival Premier card you can transfer points.

Capital One cards with transferable points to Qantas include:

Citi cards with transferable points to Qantas include:

  • Citi Premier offering 50,000 points for spending $4,000 in 3 months, 3 points per dollar on travel and gas, and 2 points per dollar on dining and entertainment. $95 annual fee waived for the first year.
  • Citi Prestige offering 50,000 points for spending $4,000 in 3 months, 5 points per dollar on airfare and dining, and 3 points per dollar on hotels. $495 annual fee.

Marriott cards with transferable points to Qantas include:

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19 Comments On "Qantas Adds The Ability To Book Same Day Award Tickets! New Comparison Of Qantas And El Al Award Rates With Taxes And Fees Included!"

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Dianey

“another day, another Qantas post”

mileagejunkie

Qantas marketing: “Hey guys, Dan hasn’t posted about us today, what can we do?”

dave

how would you rate/compare the nonstop saver award space between el al and United nyc-tlc economy?

Wakimike

Hey dan why didn’t I get the HT for this. I posted it on ddf a few hours back..

Wakimike

Oh great. I was looking fwd to that HT lol my first

yed

Maybe they want to go ahead and add first class redemption options for LY (as long as therye still around…)

Jake

1)Does Qantas charge fuel surcharges on flights from nyc to Europe like BA does for AA flights?

2) If I transfer 2MM , miles am I going to get 30%+20%?

Jake

It seems you can book China Eastern via Qantas. However, it shows Economy, Premium Economy, and First.
1) How would I know if they charge surcharges
2) Is “First” actually first or it’s really China Eastern business?

dave

dan would you say award space with el al much better than United?

D

I wouldn’t do the same day ticket with them, Booked one on Tuesday night for a wed afternoon flight & we arrived for check in, they stated sorry your ticket is not confirmed but we do see a reservation, so we called Qantas & waited on hold for a rep for over an hour and half, at that time was to late for check in for the flight.

Qantas Claimed El Al lied, El Al basically was throwing the blame on Qantas.

In the end we spent money for a ticket on the same flight

Qantas Just apologized and said to bad, your loss.

@Dan Any recourse available?

D

Yes , had an infant & it was a premium economy ticket

Anonymous

If I have a Marriott Amex card do those points also get the 44% bonus?

William Herskowitz

You had written that if you used Quantas points to fly Cathay Pacific to Israel you could have a stopover in Hong Kong for a few day at no extra charge. When I called, they told me the flight to Israel would be about 37,000 points but if I stayed in Hong Kong it wuld be 53,000 to Hong Kong and another 53,000 to Israel. How can I get the free stopover?

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