Why I Wouldn’t Take A Cyber-Bootcamp Course

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What do cybersecurity experts do?

Cybersecurity analysts plan and carry out security measures to protect a company’s computer networks and systems. They keep constant tabs on threats and monitor their organization’s networks for any breaches in security. A typical cybersecurity analyst job description includes installing, configuring, and supporting various cybersecurity tools including but not limited to firewalls, data leakage protection, anti-virus, end-point protection, encryption tools. An expert will also identify vulnerabilities, report breaches or weak spots, research IT trends, and simulate security attacks to find potential vulnerabilities.

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22 Comments On "Why I Wouldn’t Take A Cyber-Bootcamp Course"

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Anonymous Tech Person

I have no college degree and make $250k a year in cyber security. This article is partially true, but not a requirement.

I attended a few boot camps to rapidly gain necessary skills.

J G

I think they made it pretty clear that it is not a requirement but an advantage to taking this route into the Cybersecurity field.

MR

I took a cyber bootcamp and am entertaining offers of $120-160k right now. Same with my classmates. Everyone has their opinions, but bootcamps are great ways to quickly obtain skills necessary to meet job requirements.

Sam

Which bootcamp?

Mark

I tried the bootcamp route with a few friends. Only one of us got a job in the field and it was a low-level job. I wish I had taken a proper master’s degree. Two guys I know who did, both got jobs before they finished school and continued to advance since. live and learn I guess

Shimon

Mark, I am with you on that! I took a bootcamp that promised me the world…….and turns out, it was a bunch of baloney! I paid a nice sum of money (no financial aid obviously for a bootcamp 🙁 and didn’t gain more than basic skills….Tried to land a good job but the gatekeepers didn’t let me in. Two years later, I am back in college for my Masters……and have a contract for a great job! Wish i wouldn’t have wasted my time with a bootcamp the first time around…….

Mark

Truly. It’s all about the gatekeepers and I learned it the hard way. Obviously you need the skills, but to really go places in the field, you need the degree.

YGX

I have an extremely hard time believing these numbers.

James Pikover

As a teacher in a boot camp (not cybersecurity, though I have some experience with the field for bootcamps), there’s no reason a bootcamp isn’t as good as a degree. In fact, overwhelmingly degrees are outdated, costly, and unnecessary. Cybersecurity, due to the nature of the field, doesn’t have the same issues as other fields, so I don’t disagree with the post, but I have several colleagues with no degree who, as another commenter mentioned, make over $250K annually.

Myi

How long does such a course take? All 10 courses and ect?

Avi

I’ve been in information/cyber security for over a decade and when I interview/hire applicants, experience and hard skills will beat out a degree every time. I don’t care that you have a masters in cybersecurity when you don’t have any clue how things work in the real world. Most of the applicants with degrees and no experience are worse candidates than those without degrees – at least the ones without degrees don’t have to unlearn all the incorrect stuff they learned in their program. Bootcamps are typically fine because they tend to teach hard skills rather than theory. Also, masters graduates tend to think they deserve a higher salary or more responsibility, despite the fact that the degree-less applicant who’s been working as a helpdesk analyst for 3 years is a way more valuable employee.

David

I went to this program offered through Katz School with Sara Schenirer last year. I am just graduated and making $135,000 this year, with offers from two major companies. My friend did a bootcamp at the same time as me and he is doing the crazy 9-5 work and needs to be on call for constant emergencies……while making $69,000….
I think the salary differences speak for themselves.

Dave

Your friends really share their salaries with you? I find that hard to believe.

Smart man

Yes there are lots of people that share salaries with their friends and family. The world is changing and the huge secrecy of salaries is changing along with it!

Dave

Wow…. okay… as a 34 year old analytics director with an MBA, my friends and I don’t openly share salaries with one another. In fact, my cousins, neighbors, and buddies from shul keep that sensitive info private.

Mblke

People are learning that not discussing salaries doesn’t help you, it only helps the business.

How will you know if you’re being underpaid if you don’t discuss salary?

Dave

First of all, I know that I’m speaking with the advertiser and not DD readers. These comments smell suspicious all over. Second, just like no one shares the details of their marital intimate life, people generally don’t freely share their finances, salaries, with friends on the block, and certainly not with strangers online. I’m sorry, I’ve never seen anyone openly share their salary on DDF or on a DD post. I’ve never seen anyone disclose that they make $xx and reveal their friend makes $xx. Do millionaires really post their annual income on an ad of their ivy league university?! To me, it cheapens the purpose, intent, and validity of the product being sold. As a consumer, I’m simply sharing my thoughts. Have a good shabbos.

Boruch Schwey

Info about someone’s marital intimate life has no relevance to anyone’s life, and has no effect.
Finances, on the other hand, can play into misjudgments and resentment.
Refer to this great podcast episode. I really learned a lot from it.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dovid-bashevkin-has-very-interesting-takes-on-money/id1572928547?i=1000544106572

Vinny

There’s actually an app where strangers discuss salaries, total compensation, and offers at length especially in Tech companies. Look up Blind (www.teamblind.com). There’s a definite element of toxicity as a result but it’s become very commonplace to share and discuss salaries (at least with strangers)

Dave

I took this route and didn’t find it successful. Reputable companies look for a college education in addition to certifications.

Joel

I actually did a lot of research on this and what I gathered from many conversations with friends and people in the field is two things –
1) Bootcamps are much quicker and don’t cover as much information as a good degree program and Katz is a very good program. It takes longer and covers more.
2) A lot of guys I spoke to were “planning” on doing the bootcamp but never got around to it. The guys who were taking degrees were much more disciplined about it.
I went the degree route and so far I don’t regret it. I’m in a different program, but I’ve heard from a friend that the Katz Sora Shnirer program is a very good one but feel free to do your own research.

S

What makes this program and career only suitable or available for men?

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