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This Weeks Groupon Goods
« on: October 26, 2011, 12:57:09 PM »
This Weeks Groupon Goods

Harvil or Fat Cat Foosball Tables, Four Options – Online Deal - $67
http://www.groupon.com/deals/gg-game-tables-dazadi

Garmin Nuvi 1450 LMT GPS with Lifetime Map and Traffic Updates – Online Deal - $149
http://goo.gl/2tE4H

7-Inch HD Multimedia E-Reader – Online Deal - $60
http://goo.gl/k9Wck

12 Lobster Cakes or Lobster-Tail Feast for Four – Online Deal - $59
http://www.groupon.com/deals/gg-get-maine-lobster

Pint Glasses, White Wine Glasses, and Red Wine Glasses, Sets of Four – Online Deal - $12
http://goo.gl/BfJc1

Emeril Four- or Five-Piece Knife Set – Online Deal -$29
http://goo.gl/7SeOD

Custom Framed Letter Art – Online Deal - $59
http://www.groupon.com/deals/gg-frame-the-alphabet

Sedu Revolution Clipless Curling Iron or Tourmaline Ionic Flat Iron – Online Deal - $69
http://goo.gl/aXppp

10 Baby Genius Sing-Along CDs – Online Deal - $25
http://www.groupon.com/deals/gg-baby-genius

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Re: This Weeks Groupon Goods
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2011, 01:09:23 PM »
For blazes sake, don't forget the kosher groupon in boston

http://www.groupon.com/deals/ramis-boston-1?c=all&p=17

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Re: This Weeks Groupon Goods
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2011, 11:02:24 PM »
Does the groupon promise work on products?
If the gps breaks after a few months (or I'm not satisfied with it) can I just give groupon a call?
Anyone have any experience with this?

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Re: This Weeks Groupon Goods
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2011, 03:07:35 AM »
Does the groupon promise work on products?
If the gps breaks after a few months (or I'm not satisfied with it) can I just give groupon a call?
Anyone have any experience with this?

That would be amazing. I wouldn't rely on it long term because I don't know how viable they are...
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Re: This Weeks Groupon Goods
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2011, 09:21:31 AM »
a little ot but is anyone gonna buy the groupon ipo next week

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Re: This Weeks Groupon Goods
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2011, 09:56:44 AM »
a little ot but is anyone gonna buy the groupon ipo next week

How much are they opening at?

LNKD was supposed to open at 45/share but opened in the 80's..

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Re: This Weeks Groupon Goods
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2011, 10:14:17 AM »
not sure what they are opening at
but it wont be as high as lnkd i dont think

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Re: This Weeks Groupon Goods
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2011, 01:29:00 PM »
How much are they opening at?

LNKD was supposed to open at 45/share but opened in the 80's..

It'll skyrocket like all these other hyped IPOs, but it's BS. They were supposed to IPO at a higher price, but had to adjust due to lower financial forecasts.

LNKD (and the entire market recently) has been extremely volitile, with a 6 month low of ~65 (after it shot up to 80+) and high of 110, it's crazy.
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Re: This Weeks Groupon Goods
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2011, 01:53:32 PM »
yeah but i think since they had to adjust thier ipo price i think twice already it will make ivestors wary of buying right away

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Re: This Weeks Groupon Goods
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2011, 02:49:19 PM »
yeah but i think since they had to adjust thier ipo price i think twice already it will make ivestors wary of buying right away
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Re: This Weeks Groupon Goods
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2011, 10:36:27 AM »
so they plan on opening at $20
whos in? and when will you sell it

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Re: This Weeks Groupon Goods
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2011, 12:13:11 AM »
Yeah, so which company will make more profit between now and infinity?
Kelloggs, or Groupon? Because they are valued pretty similarly.

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Re: This Weeks Groupon Goods
« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2011, 12:21:16 AM »
so they plan on opening at $20
whos in? and when will you sell it

I may eat my words, but I think Groupon is a terrible investment.

Yeah, so which company will make more profit between now and infinity?
Kelloggs, or Groupon? Because they are valued pretty similarly.

Using what as your valuation metric?
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Re: This Weeks Groupon Goods
« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2011, 12:25:42 AM »

Using what as your valuation metric?

The standard valuation of a firm is the total value of all future dividends, discounted to present value to account for the time value of money.
And I'm not aware of any other value that makes sense.

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Re: This Weeks Groupon Goods
« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2011, 12:31:55 AM »
The standard valuation of a firm is the total value of all future dividends, discounted to present value to account for the time value of money.
And I'm not aware of any other value that makes sense.

Earnings-based? Revenue-based? Cash-flow based?

Just to name a few...

Run me through your calculations.
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Re: This Weeks Groupon Goods
« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2011, 01:00:44 AM »
Earnings-based? Revenue-based? Cash-flow based?

Just to name a few...

Run me through your calculations.

My calculation is simple. Nothing has any value, except money. You only get money from a firm, when they pay a dividend or liquidate.
Thus, the value is the sum of all future dividends plus the final liquidation. (And you must of course account for the time value of money).

The fact that someone will buy it from you, is only true because they are buying the dividend stream. It must come back to the dividend stream.

Revenue based. I think revenue is worthless, except to the extent it represents that you can expect future dividends or liquidation.
Earnings based. Same thing.

Imagine a firm which never paid dividends, and would never liquidate; it just reinvested all earnings. And is accumulating assets and earnings and revenue streams up to wazoo.
In a world where you could not resell the stock, how much would you pay to own this stock? Nothing.
In a world where you could resell the stock, how much would you pay for this stock? Still nothing, since nobody would buy it from you, since there is no inherent value- you will never get anything out of it.

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Re: This Weeks Groupon Goods
« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2011, 01:06:34 AM »
Surely you realize there are entire investment methodologies revolving around, for example, the P/E ratio, right?
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Re: This Weeks Groupon Goods
« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2011, 01:08:10 AM »
Using what as your valuation metric?

Oops. I was confused about what you were responding to.

I had said they were "valued similarly". I meant, that they have a similar market capitalization (the total value of all outstanding shares).
I then wondered that the market expected them to disburse a similar amount of dividends and final liquidation.

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Re: This Weeks Groupon Goods
« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2011, 01:09:23 AM »
Surely you realize there are entire investment methodologies revolving around, for example, the P/E ratio, right?

Yes, they presumably use them as metrics to guess how much dividend and final liquidation a firm will eventually pay.

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Re: This Weeks Groupon Goods
« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2011, 01:12:07 AM »
Oops. I was confused about what you were responding to.

I had said they were "valued similarly". I meant, that they have a similar market capitalization (the total value of all outstanding shares).
I then wondered that the market expected them to disburse a similar amount of dividends and final liquidation.

Bingo... I thought thats what you might have meant, which leads me to what was originally my follow-up question:

Why would you assume two companies with similar market caps will perform similarly, in anyway, be it profits, dividends, sales, etc?

Comparing the profits, dividends, revenues and sales of groupon to kellogg is like comparing apples to hand grenades.
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